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MARIA BARTIROMO, FBN ANCHOR: Indiana coming down to the wire, candidates - - welcome back, good Monday morning everybody, I'm Maria Bartiromo, it is Monday, May 2nd, here are your top stories, 8:00 a.m. on the East Coast.
The fight for Indiana coming down to the wire, candidates hold their events across the state fighting for every last vote.
But Donald Trump still confident he will be the nominee for the Republican Party.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Cruz cannot win. He's got no highway, he's got nothing. He's way behind.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: All across this country, millions of Americans right now are praying for you.
You're been lifted up in prayer right now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You are the only one (INAUDIBLE) --
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, I need your help, but (INAUDIBLE) --
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BARTIROMO: We will take you live to Indiana coming up in the program. More trouble meanwhile for the state of Michigan.
Nearly every Detroit public school closed today after the Teachers Union called for a sick out.
The latest issue for the cash-strapped city coming up. Prepping non-style when it comes to this year's Olympics, I guess.
Why team USA is getting mocked on Twitter. Countdown to the Kentucky Derby, we have everything you need to know ahead of the race for the roses.
Turning to markets this morning in Asia overnight, the Nikkei average was down better than 3 percent as the Japanese yen continues to surge against the dollar.
Markets in China and Hong Kong were closed. We do have some economic data out this morning which is dictating markets in Europe, markets in France and Germany rising.
London is closed for a holiday, but the markets in Europe are mostly higher. In the U.S., we're also expecting a higher opening from the broader averages.
In fact, we're now around the highs of the morning with the Dow Jones Industrial Average expected to open up about 42 points.
We got construction spending coming up and the ISM manufacturing index today, later on in the week, the jobs report for the month of April.
All that coming up in the program, with me this morning, Fox Business Network's Dagen McDowell, Rhino Trading Partners Michael Block and Fox News contributor Katherine Timpf.
Great show so far, you guys --
MICHAEL BLOCK, CHIEF STRATEGIST, RHINO TRADING PARTNERS: Yes, awesome --
DAGEN MCDOWELL, FOX BUSINESS: Absolutely --
BARTIROMO: And we kick off the next hour --
MCDOWELL: I love Kathy Ireland --
BARTIROMO: Oh, she was great.
MCDOWELL: Such an inspiration.
BARTIROMO: She's an inspiration, absolutely beautiful and has done such a great job with her empire.
Really nice to see --
MCDOWELL: Has to have you --
KATHERINE TIMPF, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you --
(LAUGHTER)
BARTIROMO: And right back at you, girlfriend. We're kicking off with the campaign trail right now.
Our top stories, the countdown is on in Indiana. Fifty seven winner take- all delegates up for grabs on the Republican side.
Another 83 delegates available for the Democrats. And just this, this morning, a new poll show Donald Trump with a commanding lead in the Hoosiers State.
Hillary Clinton in a statistical tie with Bernie Sanders. Fox News' John Roberts standing by in Indiana this morning.
John, I know that we were expecting Trump to be in the lead, but was anybody expecting this close of a race between Clinton and Bernie Sanders - -
JOHN ROBERTS, FOX NEWS: Well --
BARTIROMO: This morning?
ROBERTS: You know, I don't think so. And that's the reason why Bernie Sanders says that this is going to go all the way to the convention and may still be a little bit of a pipe dream on Sanders' part.
Particularly when you look at the count of super delegates and how many of those are supporting Hillary Clinton.
But Sanders still thinks that he's got an outside chance here. We're at the Bravo Cafe in Osceola, which is not too far away from South Bend where business is booming this morning.
This is one of five campaign stops that Ted Cruz is going to make today. He'll be appearing here by 9:00 this morning in a last-minute attempt to try to overturn the polls here in Indiana and come out with a win in the Hoosier State.
You pointed to that "Nbc" poll has Donald Trump about 15 points, but a poll from Purdue out at the end of last week has got Cruz up by 16 points.
So, completely opposite there. But the preponderance of polls does have Donald Trump in the lead.
Ted Cruz had a rally last night in La Porte, it's not too far west of where we are today.
And remember when John Boehner called him "Lucifer in the flesh", well, Ted Cruz kind of turned that narrative around last night and portrayed the battle for Indiana as a fight between good and evil. Listen to this.
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CRUZ: I believe in the American people. I believe in the people of the Hoosier State.
I believe in the men and women gathered here and the goodness of the American people that we will not give in to evil, but we will remember who we are and we will stand for our values.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ROBERTS: Donald Trump with a big rally in Fort Wayne, Indiana, last night where he said that Ted Cruz has got no path to victory, at least not before the convention.
John Kasich as well, and of course, Kasich, not playing here in Indiana, clearing the way for Ted Cruz.
And Trump last night suggested that nobody is going to vote for Cruz because "nobody likes him". Here is Trump.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TRUMP: Cruz is so hated, he's got such a rotten personality that they can't stand this guy.
And by the way, remember this, he'll never be able to make a deal. He doesn't get along with anybody.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ROBERTS: Fifty seven delegates as you mentioned, up for grabs here in Indiana, Maria.
It's winner-take-all state wide for the at-large delegates and then it's winner take each for three per nine congressional districts.
So, there's a chance here that if he can run the table, he can win all of the delegates here.
Ted Cruz hoping that if he stops Donald Trump here, that will prevent him from getting to 1,237 before the convention.
Trump hoping that if he wins here, it's all over. We'll find out in about 48 hours, Maria.
BARTIROMO: Yes, we sure will, John, thank you, we'll be watching John Roberts on the ground --
ROBERTS: Thanks --
BARTIROMO: This morning in Indiana. Kath Timpf is with us this morning, seems to be the last stand for Cruz. First, Carly Fiorina, you know, now, I mean, this is it.
TIMPF: You know, he's doing this like "Lord of the Rings" thing where he's saying it's a battle between good and evil in a primary.
That is so strange, could you imagine if Bernie or Hillary was saying, look, this is between good and evil.
BLOCK: You're not --
TIMPF: Nobody is going to vote based on that
BARTIROMO: That is funny --
TIMPF: Oh, well, I didn't know that. I didn't know that the other guy was evil --
BLOCK: Oh --
TIMPF: So, I really better get out and vote -- no, it's cheesy. The harder you try, you try to bring in things that are really not voting issues, you know, evil versus not evil, nobody looks at elections that way.
He just really -- his messaging has been consistently off.
BLOCK: It's a little surprising that Pensa's(ph) endorsement is not going over. I think it has -- also the fact that perhaps Pensa(ph) doesn't know --
MCDOWELL: It wasn't --
BLOCK: Believe --
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TIMPF: It was sort of --
MCDOWELL: Berate --
TIMPF: Endorsement --
MCDOWELL: It wasn't an endorsement --
BLOCK: It's just -- it's just --
TIMPF: Endorsement-like --
BLOCK: It's like --
MCDOWELL: Yes --
BARTIROMO: He --
BLOCK: It's like --
BARTIROMO: Said it was --
BLOCK: Yes, OK --
BARTIROMO: Well --
MCDOWELL: But he said I'm voting for Ted Cruz --
BLOCK: It's the president --
MCDOWELL: He was very complementary of Donald Trump --
BARTIROMO: Right --
MCDOWELL: And if you're going to really --
BLOCK: He sees the writing --
MCDOWELL: If you're going to get behind somebody and say, hey, I'm campaigning for this guy.
You -- well, maybe you don't need to say nice polite way --
BLOCK: He sees the writing --
MCDOWELL: About the guy you're not voting for.
BLOCK: He sees the writing on the wall, it isn't Wisconsin where you had, you know, all these very influential personalities coming out for Cruz.
Indiana, it's crickets, the crickets are coming out for Cruz, that's about it, I don't think -- I don't think they count them much --
MCDOWELL: I did appreciate though Ted Cruz doing his best preacher. I'm going to say --
TIMPF: I would say Baptist preacher --
MCDOWELL: He said, well, his father is a -- is a minister, so he was really getting his Bible on.
TIMPF: The hand motions --
MCDOWELL: And that --
TIMPF: And everything --
MCDOWELL: And you know, it does -- it leads his passion there, it does resonate, and he does a better job about it than Hillary Clinton.
Because when she gets in those southern states, she starts sounding --
TIMPF: Yes --
BARTIROMO: Yes --
(CROSSTALK)
MCDOWELL: Horrible --
BLOCK: The southern --
(CROSSTALK)
MCDOWELL: Like fake -- does like the fake southerner that she is.
BLOCK: It's quite an act, you know, it reminds me of Bob Odenkirk, first season of "Better Call Saul", "you will atone!" You know --
(LAUGHTER)
It's like, hey, take --
(CROSSTALK)
Deadspot on AMC next year --
BARTIROMO: By the way --
BLOCK: Is one of the shows. Maybe walking dead, we'll see.
BARTIROMO: Trump went back to the Ted Cruz birther issue over the weekend. But guess what? He was doing a lot to do it.
I mean, it was like he responded to a speech given by Cruz's wife Heidi and she addressed Cruz's heritage. Listen to this.
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TRUMP: Heidi Cruz is a very nice woman, said, my husband was an immigrant" -- oh, became a big story.
Is that they got, (INAUDIBLE) for president.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BARTIROMO: Your thoughts on this, Kath, I mean, obviously, Heidi Cruz comes out and says my husband is an immigrant, she was trying to appeal to the Hispanic voter.
It blew up in her face.
TIMPF: Absolutely, that -- there's been this issue of can Ted Cruz run? I mean, legal experts pretty much on the whole agree that he is eligible to be president.
Then you have the wife come out and say, he's an immigrant which is crazy because then she got -- and he's Hispanic because she wants people to think that he was from -- he's from Canada --
BARTIROMO: Right --
TIMPF: OK? So, I just -- I really don't -- didn't understand --
BARTIROMO: Exactly what --
TIMPF: Anything about --
BARTIROMO: Trump has been saying, so, it was sort of playing to Trump's hand again.
TIMPF: That's exactly what Trump was saying --
BARTIROMO: Oh, my God --
TIMPF: And there was nothing positive about it. Nobody heard that and didn't think, wait a minute, either he is from Canada or wait a minute, can immigrants run for president?
Oh, wait, no --
BARTIROMO: Right --
MCDOWELL: I did -- I did a lot of pushback on Twitter because they're like, oh, you're in Trump's camp. I'm like, no.
However, I mean, I've got no dog in this hunt, I'm trying to be completely objective about all these candidates.
But Cruz's problem isn't even himself anymore. It was the fact that he lost so badly, not just in New York, but in those five states on the East Coast.
That's why people have moved away from him. Because --
TIMPF: Yes --
MCDOWELL: It was -- because he didn't even come close, I think --
(CROSSTALK)
TIMPF: He has put himself behind him --
BARTIROMO: Yes --
TIMPF: Right? Good and evil, it will be like angels on the outfield situation.
BARTIROMO: What about the violence that we're seeing? More, you know, violent protesters we've seen at the Trump rallies including more plan tonight.
Now, we don't think that this is the Trump supporters doing this, but why so much violence around Trump rallies and is this going to come back to bite him?
BLOCK: I don't know why so much violence on May Day, you know as --
TIMPF: Right --
BLOCK: People looking for an excuse here. As for Trump --
BARTIROMO: Any excuse will be --
BLOCK: Himself --
BARTIROMO: Yes, you're right --
BLOCK: There's this point about Trump, and we talked about this earlier in the show and -- Basle(ph) was out here.
But you know, one thing that, you know, Trump needs to do is, can he win back support of people that were put off by perhaps the misogynistic message, anti-immigrant message, racist message.
If they're interpreted that way, how does he get those folks back?
MCDOWELL: The "Wall Street Journal" has an editorial today, saying these protesters might as well be voting for Trump.
And I will quote from it because it is a terrific editorial. "Every protester who breaks the law or waves a Mexican flag as a political statement in favor of illegal immigration might as well be voting for --
BARTIROMO: Wow --
TIMPF: Absolutely --
(CROSSTALK)
BARTIROMO: So, explained to him --
BLOCK: Brutal --
BARTIROMO: That much.
MCDOWELL: And actually --
BARTIROMO: Yes --
TIMPF: They're shutting down roads, is like they don't make themselves look like national --
MCDOWELL: Talks about --
TIMPF: People.
BLOCK: It's not --
MCDOWELL: Talks about --
BLOCK: Useful.
TIMPF: Yes --
(CROSSTALK)
BLOCK: It's not helpful for them call us whatever that is.
TIMPF: Whatever it is, right. You don't like them, fine, we get it --
BARTIROMO: Yes --
TIMPF: But what do you want people to do?
MCDOWELL: And I'm not --
(CROSSTALK)
BARTIROMO: That's what -- that's what I was thinking --
BLOCK: First one --
BARTIROMO: When I went to the White House Correspondents dinner this weekend.
As I'm walking into the hotel and I took a picture of it, so we can show you later. All these protesters, and I'm thinking to myself, what do you want?
You want President Obama to come out and write you a check?
TIMPF: Yes --
BARTIROMO: What are you doing? I mean, it's just trying to create anarchy.
MCDOWELL: I know, and it does not -- and if anything, I think as the journal put out, it's going to have the opposite effect.
And I'm -- this does not justify the random acts of violence that you've seen at Trump rallies either. Than saying --
BLOCK: Yes --
MCDOWELL: As a collective, if you don't want Donald Trump elected, well, you're actually helping him, not hurting him --
BARTIROMO: Yes --
MCDOWELL: By that --
BARTIROMO: That's a great point. All right, make sure to tune in to the Fox Business Network tomorrow night, we've got special coverage of the Indiana primaries tomorrow, beginning at 6:00 p.m. Eastern.
You don't want to miss it, we've got all the players, Fox Business Network tomorrow for Indiana.
Straight ahead, are they competing in the Olympics or a preppy fashion show in the Hamptons. Why team USA is getting mocked online for its new Ralph Lauren uniforms for Rio de Janeiro.
And then later, there's no secret that internships, top technology companies pay big money. But what if we told you that the positions pay as much as an average American salary.
We'll break down the numbers, we'll tell you about internships, going into the Summer internship period. Back in a minute.
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BARTIROMO: Welcome back. Most of Detroit's public schools closed today. Cheryl Casone with that story and the headlines now. Cheryl.
CHERYL CASONE, FOX BUSINESS: Yes, Maria. Officials say that 90 of a 100 public schools in Detroit have been closed after the Teachers Union urged its members to call out sick.
This follows a weekend announcement that the district wouldn't have enough money to pay its teachers for the Summer.
About 46,000 students are enrolled in the district's schools. Well, Puerto Rico's government will not make a nearly $370 million bond payment today after failing to restructure or find a political solution to its worsening debt crisis.
A new day that shows that Puerto Ricans are leaving the island for the mainland United States at a historic rate right now.
About 84,000 people moved from Puerto Rico to the U.S. in 2014 while only 20,000 moved back to the island.
And are you ready for this? It's kind of weird. Sony has come up with intelligent contact lenses capable of recording and playing video all with the blink of your eye.
So, Sony has found a patent application revealing how the smart lenses would use movements of the eyelids to activate various functions.
Seven Japanese and vendors designed the contacts, they include a camera -- I'm not kidding, a wireless processing unit and a storage unit.
So, think about getting dizzy while wearing these -- out there before we see them.
And finally this, Ralph Lauren unveiling the clothing designs of the U.S. Olympic team that they're going to be wearing during this year's Summer games, but it's controversial.
It's got the Ralph Lauren style, got the colors, you know, the button-down, copy emblem of the Polo.
But thousands of critics say on Twitter that this is "too preppy". And this has become a huge internet conversation.
Take that one away.
BARTIROMO: Wow --
CASONE: Kind of silly, but in my opinion, I think it's silly. I mean, they're fine, but whatever.
BARTIROMO: Ralph Lauren always does uniforms for lots of different sporting events.
TIMPF: Yes --
BARTIROMO: So, what do you --
TIMPF: Yes --
BARTIROMO: What do you think, Kath, would you wear that?
TIMPF: Yes, I mean, I wouldn't -- I -- but it's --
BARTIROMO: You will -- so, you think it is too preppy --
TIMPF: I am --
BARTIROMO: Too preppy --
(CROSSTALK)
TIMPF: But too preppy for what? Right, exactly like we already have them all like goofed out --
BARTIROMO: Right --
TIMPF: You know, ahead of display --
BARTIROMO: Exactly --
TIMPF: Taking -- through their noses --
BARTIROMO: I think --
(CROSSTALK)
TIMPF: Yes, they look good, they make America look --
(CROSSTALK)
BARTIROMO: Yes, make America look great --
MCDOWELL: I don't wear white for two reasons.
TIMPF: Right --
MCDOWELL: It makes me look wide and I spill stuff on myself --
TIMPF: I've never put out something white without spilling something --
BARTIROMO: Exactly --
TIMPF: Before I leave the house --
MCDOWELL: Right --
BARTIROMO: Me, too --
TIMPF: I just don't do it --
BARTIROMO: Meaning --
MCDOWELL: It's like --
BARTIROMO: Pouring coffee --
MCDOWELL: Where did that marker come from?
TIMPF: Yes --
(CROSSTALK)
BARTIROMO: You had -- you had pasta today, got it --
(LAUGHTER)
All over the dress, right?
(CROSSTALK)
MCDOWELL: In my house --
(CROSSTALK)
BLOCK: I was like, wait, I had Chinese food --
BARTIROMO: Oh --
BLOCK: What is this?
BARTIROMO: Exactly. All right, let's get to markets for a second because the Japanese yen continues to be a story.
Up, sending stock down in Japan, that's not setting the tone for Wall Street because we're expecting a higher opening but Michael, what are your headlines for markets and investors this morning?
BLOCK: Yes, the yen -- the yen keeps rallying here. And you know, the BO -- the Bank of Japan is supposed to be an easy mode, meaning that the yen should be going down.
What we saw in late January was, they tried to make the yen go lower, so to speak, and they failed to do that.
BARTIROMO: Because they went to negative interest rate --
(CROSSTALK)
BLOCK: Everything I confounded, now they came out and said, you know what? We've realized that our policies need to take effect, which is a nice way of saying we don't know what we're doing anymore.
BARTIROMO: Yes, one of our --
BLOCK: So --
BARTIROMO: Guests last week said Kuroda needs to go now, the --
BLOCK: Yes --
BARTIROMO: Head of the central bank there.
BLOCK: So, do -- no, I don't know who is going to do better, but --
MCDOWELL: Right if -- were he replaced and do better because --
BARTIROMO: Yes, it's a good point --
MCDOWELL: Seeing other central bankers around the world are struggling, which is --
BARTIROMO: They're all having --
BLOCK: It's beyond his control, I'm not sure what anyone else could do. The point here is that, yet, the yen is rallying, it is -- it is messing up some carry-trades.
And yet, we have this market that doesn't come in. Everyone shooting -- still rooting for and shooting for this market to go down.
Means everyone is sure and they keep -- and they keep squeezing. So, this is a --
BARTIROMO: All right --
BLOCK: Little game we're in right now --
BARTIROMO: It's a little quiet today because you've got a lot of markets closed, the U.K. is closed, Taiwan is closed, Hong Kong is closed.
A number of markets are closed today. But still, there's construction spending in the ISM out, and it is the week when we get the jobs number out later on in the week.
BLOCK: Yes, the --
BARTIROMO: Thanks to lead market --
BLOCK: Yes, the flipside here is that the dollar is weaker, with the yen so strong and that's giving a little tailwind to commodities and industrials and some of these other sectors that could do well with a weaker dollar --
BARTIROMO: We'll --
(CROSSTALK)
We'll take a short break, who on this panel has had an internship?
TIMPF: Yes --
BARTIROMO: One, two --
MCDOWELL: I did --
BARTIROMO: Three --
MCDOWELL: In college, yes --
BARTIROMO: You never had an internship?
BLOCK: I raised my hand --
BARTIROMO: Oh, OK, all of us. College internship programs are notorious for taking advantage of students, we've been there.
But these progressive technology companies have today's undergrads singing a different tune.
How Silicon Valley is changing the internship game straight ahead, you want to hear this one.
And then the Kentucky Derby, just one week away, the CEO of Breeders Cup will join us to talk about what it takes to race a champion horse.
You're watching MORNINGS WITH MARIA on the Fox Business Network, we'll be right back.
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BARTIROMO: Welcome back. Well, forget Wall Street. It is the Silicon Valley technology startups paying the big bucks to college interns this Summer.
And a new poll shows just how much. Jo Ling Kent with the details. Big story, Jo --
JO LING KENT, FOX BUSINESS: Yes, a big --
BARTIROMO: I like this one --
LING KENT: Story, and of course the data gathered was by who else? An undergrad at UC Berkeley.
It's no secret that internships at top tech companies are paying huge amounts of money.
And according to a survey conducted by a Berkeley undergrad, Rodney Falls(ph), this year, many interns will approach what the average American makes annually in just three months.
Students reported the offer they have received and you can see them here. SnapChat, $10,000 a month, Pinterest, $9,000 a month, plus housing and Twitter is paying up $8,400 a month.
And Groupon which is a struggling company, the stock doing very poorly, that is $7,700 a month.
So, that might be met with a little skepticism. Look over at LinkedIn, they're paying $7,500 a month.
Google $6,600 for just four weeks, and Facebook is putting up $8,000 a month, plus $3,000 in benefits and Microsoft, $7,200 plus $3,000 in housing.
Now, to give you a sense of how this all compares, look at the national average wage, it's about $46,500 according to the Social Security Administration.
That data is from 2014, but still stacks up here. And of course, this is all self-reported data, it's about 500 students who reported in what offers they had received from these companies for this coming Summer.
BARTIROMO: That's good, that's good compensation.
LING KENT: Yes, it's great compensation --
(CROSSTALK)
BARTIROMO: How about the experience this far?
LING KENT: Yes --
BARTIROMO: Yes, is that -- would you do that?
TIMPF: Oh, yes --
BARTIROMO: Yes --
TIMPF: I always did unpaid internships and I worked at Boston Market in west L.A. right out of college, so I could live there.
Not nice, not --
BARTIROMO: Yes --
TIMPF: Nice to clean those bathrooms. But you know --
LING KENT: Yes --
TIMPF: Kind of all about what you put into the internships. You can get an internship or just sit around and do nothing or you can actually make it work.
That even if you're getting paid that kind of money, but wow, that would have been nice.
BARTIROMO: Michael, yes --
BLOCK: I wish -- I wish you had pointed out chicken.
TIMPF: I did, I ate a lot of chicken and macaroni and cheese, if you mix it --
(LAUGHTER)
I used to finish, it's very good.
BARTIROMO: Good tip --
BLOCK: The stuff we learned here -- the stuff we learned here on this show.
BARTIROMO: Yes --
BLOCK: You know, look, what I'll say is this, these companies are competing for talents --
TIMPF: Yes --
BLOCK: They're looking at so many top schools and so many of the top students. They want to attract them, they want to bring them in.
They're really using honey to bring the flies in and say, you know what? We're going to find the next leadership of this company, then we're going to pay a lot of money to a bunch of kids that are going to go off and do something else or not workout.
But look, this is what the market is dictating. We need to find the leadership, otherwise someone else is going to.
MCDOWELL: I --
BLOCK: Competitive landscape.
MCDOWELL: I interned at the Southeast and Center for Contemporary Art for years --
BARTIROMO: Nice --
MCDOWELL: During college and I had nothing to do with what I wound up doing for a living.
But I got to work on controversial artists like Sally Mann and Andrea Sorano(ph) when these scandals were blowing up --
TIMPF: It's amazing --
MCDOWELL: Around them. So, it was --
TIMPF: Fantastic --
MCDOWELL: I still have really fond memories, even though --
TIMPF: Yes --
MCDOWELL: Even though I obviously don't work --
BARTIROMO: But you learned so much from it --
MCDOWELL: I learned --
BARTIROMO: The experience --
MCDOWELL: A terrific amount --
TIMPF: And, well, a lot of undergrads should actually know is that even if the internship itself doesn't pay, often times, the university will pony up the cash through a scholarship or something in the Summer.
That's how I got paid. My intern at "Abc News", it was unpaid. And yet, my college was able to say, here's some living expenses money to help you make it -- make it through.