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O'REILLY: Thanks for staying with us. I'm Bill O'Reilly "Personal Story" segment tonight. As we told you in the Talking Points memo, the Clinton/Trump presidential race is already madness and now President Obama has jumped into the fray saying this about Donald Trump.

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PRES. BARACK OBAMA (D), UNITED STATES: I think it's important for us to take seriously the statements he's made in the past, but most importantly, and I speak to all of you in this room as reporters as well as the American public, I think I just want to emphasize the degree to which we are in serious times, and this is a really serious job. This is not entertainment. This is not a reality show.

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O'REILLY: With us now Geraldo Rivera and Eric Bolling. All right. Geraldo, your take, that was kind of condescending.

GERALDO RIVERA, FOX NEWS SENIOR CORRESPONDENT: I think that the President was very pretentious at his Ivy League smug best. Now that he is a lame duck and he has popularity over 50 percent, he feels that he can be condescending, but there is something substantive about what he says and that is the great danger for the candidate, for Trump, and for the GOP. You have to be crazy to win the GOP nomination. You have to be to the extreme right of everybody on every issue, including immigration where you have to be to the right of Steve King in Iowa.

Steve King, the guy who said that immigrants have the cantaloupe sized calves because they're all carrying dope over the border. So Trump now has to retreat from some of those extreme positions. He's already started, minimum wage now is in play, raising the minimum wage. I think he will moderate, but there is no doubt but that his previous statements will be used against him.

O'REILLY: Well, in the real world, Bolling, President Obama knocking Donald Trump helps Donald Trump because a lot of the -- I think 99 percent of the pro-Trump vote is an anti-Obama vote, is it not?

ERIC BOLLING, FOX NEWS CO-HOST, "THE FIVE": President Obama sounded a lot like Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, John McCain, and the Bushes.

O'REILLY: No, they haven't. They haven't. They haven't.

BOLLING: No, no, blame Donald Trump, call him a carnival barker, call him a reality TV star when the reality is that he's creating an organic movement. People are coming out to vote for the first time --

O'REILLY: But my point is, Bolling, and I'm sure you understand it --

BOLLING: Maybe not.

O'REILLY: By saying this about Trump --

BOLLING: Of course, everything helps.

O'REILLY: All right?

BOLLING: Yes, of course.

O'REILLY: It helps Trump.

BOLLING: Everything helps Trump.

O'REILLY: Wait. I want everybody to understand this. No one who likes President Obama's job, the job he's doing, is going to vote for Trump. No one. No one. So for him to almost waste a presidential press conference - -

BOLLING: May I prove that I do understand Bill's point?

RIVERA: You prove that and then I will prove him wrong.

BOLLING: Very good. Everything helps Trump whether it's someone you don't ascribe to President Obama or Hillary Clinton taking shots at Trump, then that helps Trump. Or if it's the establishment type rhinos who don't like Trump --

O'REILLY: Rhinos, there you go. So, Bush the elder and Bush the younger, the two presidents, are rhinos? Come on, Bolling!

BOLLING: No, but I'll put Paul Ryan in there, I'll put Romney in there. And I'll put John McCain --

O'REILLY: All right. We're going to get to talk radio show.

RIVERA: The President had 51 percent approval. That is a fact.

O'REILLY: But this week. Next week it will be 38 percent.

RIVERA: You cannot win the presidency of the United States with just White people.

O'REILLY: What I'm trying to tell you guys is that Trump is inoculated to President Obama. Doesn't matter what President Obama says. Now, the person that could be helped is Hillary Clinton and here is the question. Do you think, Bolling, that President Obama is going to go out and campaign for Hillary Clinton?

BOLLING: Out and campaign, I doubt it. I don't think -- I don't think the Obamas and Clintons are going to get along at all.

RIVERA: I think that President Obama will warmly embrace Hillary Clinton if only to continue --

O'REILLY: She's going out on the stump.

RIVERA: He will campaign vigorously I predict --

O'REILLY: All right. Now, Rivera is wrong and you're going to see it and I'll tell you why.

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O'REILLY: Reagan did not do it. Reagan did not do it, for Bush the elder. Eisenhower did not do it for Nixon. It is very rare for a sitting president to go out on the stump for Hillary Clinton, and I do not believe Barack Obama will do it. He'll make a few appearances, a few big appearances, and that's it. He's signing up his book, his lecture tour.

RIVERA: He is crucial to Hillary Clinton if only to rally the minority vote around the Democratic --

O'REILLY: Sure he is, but if he's going to do it -- if he does it, by the way --

RIVERA: He's a kid. He's got plenty of energy. Ronald Reagan was already relatively aged at the time he left office.

O'REILLY: That's a point.

RIVERA: Barack Obama --

O'REILLY: But I think Mr. Obama doesn't really like the Clintons that much.

RIVERA: He likes them a lot better than he likes Trump.

BOLLING: You're being nice and gentle with that. They do not like each other. These two are --

O'REILLY: Bill and Barack, that's two alphas right there. I don't know about her.

BOLLING: It extends wider as well. I think Hillary Clinton is right alongside her husband in all aspects with dislike of the Obamas.

RIVERA: It is incumbent on Donald Trump, bring it back to Trump, it's incumbent on him to be reasonable, to be moderate in his tone, to be educated in his presentation, and to not be the person who gang fought gutted the other Republican --

O'REILLY: Well, I mean, look, we all know that the likelihood is that Mr. Trump will move to the center.

BOLLING: Right.

O'REILLY: But by doing so --

RIVERA: I am hoping so.

O'REILLY: He alienates some Republicans. The minimum wage is a perfect example.

RIVERA: I'm not worried about those Republicans.

O'REILLY: It doesn't matter who you're worried about. The conservative viewers can say, wait a minute, I voted for Donald Trump because he said he wouldn't raise the minimum wage and as soon as he wins he says he will. Explain that, Bolling.

BOLLING: He always said, he was going to.

O'REILLY: No, he didn't. He said in the debate and we have the clip, I don't want the minimum wage up.

BOLLING: He said he was open to a minimum wage.

RIVERA: If you try to reconcile his past positions, you will lose, you will lose. He's going to change. He's not going to --

BOLLING: Of course. He's changed on many things.

O'REILLY: This isn't the -- he said he wouldn't and now he says he will. Don't give me gay marriage. All right? This is minimum wage. Said he wouldn't, now he says he will. No Spin Zone. Last word, Geraldo, make it quick.

RIVERA: My last word is Donald Trump must moderate his tone, he will moderate his tone. Barack Obama will be an effective surrogate for Hillary Clinton.

BOLLING: He won't moderate.

O'REILLY: Okay. Gentlemen, thank you. One footnote, Geraldo has a special that will air Saturday on FNC, 8:00 p.m., Sunday 9:00 p.m. entitled beauty and the beast about the drug thug El Chapo in Mexico. I hope you give him a hard time. It's a slug.

Stuart Varney on deck. Is Apple stock is getting crushed because Americans are angry with that company? Stuart is next.

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O'REILLY: "Back of the Book" segment. Two very hot topics in our "Varney's Villain" segment, protesters waving Mexican flags and Apple stock getting hammered. Here now Stuart Varney. Big business channel guy. You know, you're beating CNBC in the morning.

STUART VARNEY, FOX BUSINESS ANCHOR: That is correct. Yes, sir.

O'REILLY: That's pretty good.

VARNEY: See the smile?

O'REILLY: I know. I mean, they must be firing people over there at CNBC. Varney is winning. Man.

VARNEY: Thank you, Bill.

O'REILLY: One of your villains are these protesters waving these Mexican flags. Don't they have a right to a freedom of expression?

VARNEY: Sure they do, but this is outrageous. You don't wave a foreign flag in the face of an American presidential candidate. Some of these groups that are doing this, they still claim that California, Texas, and New Mexico are part of Mexico.

O'REILLY: Right. Right.

VARNEY: That's outrageous to do that. You don't -- you show allegiance to a foreign country in an American political demonstration. That is outrageous. And I think that it's like showing a red rag to a bull. You show that to Americans, and they're going to object vigorously, likely so.

O'REILLY: I think the conservative and independent leaning to the right people will. The very open border crowd, they don't care. I mean, they want a -- they want -- the open border crew, and there are more of them than you realize, "New York Times" for example editorial board, they're open border people.

VARNEY: Yes. But there's something about waving a foreign flag against an American political presidential candidate --

O'REILLY: There used to be. There used to be. But now with this globalism and we're not better than anyone else, and all of this business, but I do agree with you about 65, 70 percent of Americans would be very angry.

VARNEY: Very.

O'REILLY: Okay. Apple. Now, as everybody knows, they wouldn't cooperate with the FBI in the terrorism investigation in San Bernardino, their stock down from over 130 to 93. Let's roll the tape on the CEO of Apple.

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TIM COOK, CEO OF APPLE: We need to decide, as a nation, how much power the government should have over our data and over our privacy. We did not expect to be in this position, at odds with our own government, but we believe strongly that we have a responsibility to help you protect your data and protect your privacy.

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O'REILLY: Okay. So the stock is down big, and I think that, you know, he lost that pr battle, Cook.

VARNEY: He did.

O'REILLY: You agree with me?

VARNEY: I do.

O'REILLY: Okay. So, most Americans say, look, you know, when there's terrorism and dead bodies in the streets, you have to cooperate with the federal government. You have to find a way to do it on a one-time basis, if you want to make it that way. But on a case by case. Cook didn't. Apple didn't. Does that add into Americans saying, you know, I'm going to sell my Apple stock or I'm not going to buy it?

VARNEY: No. I think Apple stock is down for other reasons. That incident did not help Apple by any means but the stock is down because, A, they're selling far fewer iPhones than they used to. That serves as their bottom- line.

O'REILLY: Why are they selling far fewer?

VARNEY: A lot of competition.

O'REILLY: Competition is driving it down? It's not like, I don't like Apple I'm going to buy Samsung?

VARNEY: Well, no, it's not like that.

O'REILLY: You sure?

VARNEY: A lot of people are very comfortable with the iPhone 5 and iPhone 6 and they've already gotten. They may not want to invest in another new iPhone because the old ones are so good.

O'REILLY: But doesn't the new one give you a massage and take your tests for you and stuff?

VARNEY: Not quite, Bill. But I'd like them to get there.

O'REILLY: All right. I'm sure they will. See, I think there's bad will now in the marketplace there towards Apple.

VARNEY: Let's suppose for a moment that Tim Cook would have opened up the iPhone to the FBI.

O'REILLY: Yes. Which he should have.

VARNEY: There would have been an immediate demand from China, hey, open up our iPhones. Because we have got a whole bunch of dissidents and we just love to find out what they're saying to each other.

O'REILLY: And you say to China, no.

VARNEY: Yes?

O'REILLY: Yes. And oh, I am not going to do it.

VARNEY: Tim Cook is going to China very soon. He's trying to make amends with the Chinese --

O'REILLY: What did he do to the Chinese?

VARNEY: Well, the Chinese have done something to him.

O'REILLY: What?

VARNEY: They have stopped up iTunes briefly and I moved it, I'm not sure that's the right expression, but they've blocked that.

O'REILLY: Because they don't want the freedom for their people to have the freedom to see it.

VARNEY: Yes. They don't want that.

O'REILLY: So Cook is going over to beg them not to do that?

VARNEY: I don't know whether he's going to beg them, but he's trying to mend some fences there.

O'REILLY: But what did Cook do to them? He didn't do anything to them

VARNEY: Wait a second. China has enormous leverage. There are a vast market.

O'REILLY: Right. Apple needs China.

VARNEY: Absolutely. They need them big-time.

O'REILLY: Right.

VARNEY: Don't offend China go over there --

O'REILLY: But I don't know how he offended China. What did he do?

VARNEY: Well --

O'REILLY: He didn't do anything.

VARNEY: That's a very good question.

O'REILLY: Right. And he just wants them to stop blocking the iTunes.

VARNEY: China doesn't like a foreign firm like Apple exercising that kind of influence inside their market.

O'REILLY: Yes. Wait until they get a load of Trump. All right. Stuart Varney, everybody. FACTOR "Tip of the Day." Kim Kardashian in Cuba. Will she stay there? The tip moments away.

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O'REILLY: FACTOR "Tip of the Day." Why is Kim Kardashian in Cuba? But first, we'd like to wish all the moms a very happy Mother's Day on Sunday. I was lucky enough to have a great mother. And that makes all the difference in life. Fathers are vital too. We have great gifts for dads for his day on BillO'Reilly.com. Patriots welcome door mats very strong this season, hats, shirts, pins, garment bags, terrific no spin dad mugs, and parchment. You get two for one on parchments.

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Ann Grubbler, Scottsdale, Arizona. "Wow, the Bushes, Romney, Ryan are not supporting Trump? Does that mean their feelings are more important than the people they serve?"

Joyce Miller, Columbus, Indiana. "Are we supposed to believe that conservatives who don't support Trump will actually vote for Hillary or stay home?"

More than likely stay home, Joyce. Millions did when Romney ran.

Tommy Ahern, Brooklyn, New York. "The children Watters interviewed last night were more interesting and better informed than most adults he talks to."

Kyle Wrebel, Dallas, Texas. "As I thank you, Bill, for interviewing Sergeant Clinton Romesha. Thanks for giving his book the attention it deserves."

Well, you are welcome, Kyle. The book "Red Platoon" is excellent.

Ben Lawrence, Merced, California. "O'Reilly, you give a negative impression of the internet, which is not entirely accurate. I won't hold it against you, though, as many older folks dislike what they do not understand."

With age comes wisdom, Ben. But that may change if Americans don't wise up and understand how much deception there actually is in cyberspace.

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Well, the book will be out September 13th, Wei. But you can preorder it on BillO'Reilly.com. And we'll ship it to you. We shipped them in most countries.

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Well, thank you, Michael. We'll be there in September 24th. Reno the day before, September 23rd, Atlanta, Biloxi in October. Also, we'll see everybody in Fairfax, Virginia, tomorrow evening. Big crowd. And Father's Day weekend at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut. Tickets make excellent gifts for dad and grandad, check it all out on BillO'Reilly.com. And the shows are brand-new now that Trump and Hillary are squaring off on the "Who Wants to be President?" tour.

Finally tonight, the FACTOR "Tip of the Day." As you may remember, I traveled to Cuba last month for a look around. Well, apparently Kim Kardashian and Kanye West heard about my trip so now they're in Cuba. Muy bien. Anyway, we'd like to debrief the Kim and Kanye when they get back to the states, talk a little socialism with them, a little Fidel, a little Raul. I know we're not holding our breaths. Upon hearing the couple was in Cuba, Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida said, haven't the Cuban people suffered enough?

FACTOR "Tip of the Day," humor is good. That is it for us tonight. Please check out the FOX News FACTOR website different from BillO'Reilly.com. Also, we would like you to spout off about the FACTOR from anywhere in the world. O'Reilly@FOXNews.com. O'Reilly@FOXNews.com. Name and town, name and town, name and town if you wish to opine. Word of the day, no palter when writing in to the FACTOR.

On Monday, we have Watters back against my better judgment, all right? He's on a pot tour in Colorado.

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