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The Last Word for November 30, 2015, MSNBC - Part 2



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O`DONNELL: Maria Teresa, can you imagine a meeting like that where they would not ask him to change the tone?

KUMAR: Not at all. But, what I find really interesting is that it is the old world way of doing politicking with the new world of politicking coming to the head, right? So, even ten years ago, it would be very easy that he could have met with African-American pastors. No one would have known the better.

And, all of a sudden slowly creeping doing the politics behind closed doors and actually gotten a few endorsements. Now, social media, got a wind of it. In less than, you know, 72 hours, all of these pastors, actually, had to stand down and recognize that, that whatever they said on behalf of Trump was actually going to hurt them almost immediately overnight. Before there is very rarely to have political consequences so quickly, but now because of social media, he basically got -- he basically got stopped on arrival.

O`DONNELL: And, Jonathan Allen, he continues his lying tour about what happened in New Jersey on 9/11, continued it on Sunday shows this weekend. He will not loosen his grip on that particular lie.

But, we are now hearing from his supporters out there and his interviews people are grabbing with him that they just think, "Well, OK. That, you know, that is his lie but people in Washington are telling worse lies than the lies Donald Trump tells." So, apparently, they have been worn down to the point where they are willing to accept lies.

JONATHAN ALLEN, AUTHOR, HRC: Yes, we are going for the lowest common lie denominator, I do not know. Look, Donald Trump says what he wants. He says what he thinks will be popular, and the truth be damned. We have seen it time and again.

And, tonight, it is not just about what would happen or did not happen on new jersey rooftops after 9/11. He is not backing down at all. And, by the way, I was on that show with Omarosa. She indeed is a democrat and I believe she actually worked in the Clinton White House at one time.

O`DONNELL: Yes, yes, that is right. That is right. Yes. And, was it Steve Kornacki show or was it Melissa Harris-Perry?

ALLEN: It was "Up."

O`DONNELL: It was a Saturday morning show. Yes. We are going to get that tape and so, we are going to lock her in to that position.

REID: But, at the same, Lawrence -- if I may, there is an interesting sort of back story that is going on. Within the African-American community, of course, the pastor sort of world, that world of the church is the centripetal force that moves the black vote traditionally.

And, you have under the radar, a riff between that part of the traditional black vote and the Black Lives Matter Organizations, which are much younger and disconnected from the black church.

So, I think the interesting thing is that Donald Trump, as, you know, wacky as he is, is sort of exploiting a potential riff between the kind of old school black preacherody, if want to. Call it that. And, sort of new school, Black Lives Matter Organization.

Notice, he blamed the Black Lives Matter for that group not endorsing him. He is trying to exploit something that is actually potentially there, which is a generational sort of riff between these two parts of the civil rights movement. So, that is sort of interesting.

But, I would watch to see if Omarosa, who is a democrat, who did work for the Clinton campaign, does endorse. Because what Donald Trump right now does not have are black validaters, who are well-known and with respected among black people, or just well-known period. So, it will be interesting to watch --

O`DONNELL: So, the best he could do is a well-known reality star?


REID: Yes.

KUMAR: No. But, I think that he, actually, has that problem along the lines of validaters that are women, that are people of -- that are Latinos.

REID: Yes.

KUMAR: That are African-American. The actual base that he needs in order to get to the White House.

ALLEN: I think what Maria Teresa --

O`DONNELL: Go ahead, Jonathan.

ALLEN: I was going to say I think is what Maria Teresa is saying is the reason that Donald Trump is going to win an overwhelming share of the African-American vote, certainly not in a general election, probably not in a primary but I think what he is trying to do is find a racial or ethnic or any other type of minority that he can go to and not already have basically poisoned the well, if you will. Latinos, if you look at Muslims in this country, you know, you go through the groups and pretty soon he is alienated a lot of them.

REID: Yes. You know, republican primary that is not about black and Latino voters, because there really are not any in the republican primary. That is about white suburban voters, who want permission to go with Donald Trump. That is what he is trying to give them.

O`DONNELL: All right, quick break. When we come back, Chris Christie has finally found something he disagrees with Donald Trump about, we will be right back.



O`DONNELL: Chris Christie has finally taken on one of the lies of Donald Trump. Chris Christie is calling out Trump for lying about having seen thousands and thousands of people celebrating in New Jersey on 9/11. Here is what Christie said about that today.


CHRIS CHRISTIE, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: It did not happen. And, the fact is that, you know, people can say anything, but the facts are the facts. And, that did not happen in New Jersey that day. It has not happened sense.


O`DONNELL: It took Chris Christie quite a while to get up his courage to say that. His first reaction to Trump`s lie was this.

"I do not remember that and so it is not something that was a part of my recollection. I think if it had happened, I would remember it, but, you know, there could be things I forget, too."

And, Jonathan Allen, maybe it is because he got a big endorsement in New Hampshire today, the newspaper there, endorsing Chris Christie for president.

ALLEN: They were saying that Chris Christie surge right now.



ALLEN: It might get all of the way up to like, I do not know, 10 percent, 15 percent. Look, Chris Christie is still toward the bottom of the republican field. And, the endorsement from the New Hampshire paper is not going to change that.

O`DONNELL: Let us take a look at the poll -- the latest poll in New Hampshire, which shows Chris Christie way down there at 4 percent. Let us get this up on the screen. He is way down at 4 percent below Jeb Bush.

And, the Manchester Union Leader decides to endorse Chris Christie, which we should know that since 1980, the Manchester Union Leader has endorsed one person that became president, that was Ronald Reagan. And, Joy, last time around, 2012, they endorsed Newt Gingrich.

REID: Come on.

O`DONNELL: No, it gets worse. It gets worse, OK? They endorsed McCain, you know, who then -- the time before that he did get the nomination. But, in reverse order, they endorsed Steve Forbes, Pat Buchanan, twice. Two times in a row. In 1988, of course, they endorsed Pete Dupont. And, so, you know, as I mentioned to Rachel when she was handing off the show to me that they are not afraid of picking a loser.

REID: They are not afraid -- what? No, really? Rudy Giuliani? I mean Chris Christie is the Rudy Giuliani of --

O`DONNELL: No. Newt Gingrich last time. Newt Gingrich last time.

REID: Yes. Chris Christie is about 0.0 chance of being the republican nominee but bully for him that he got an endorsement from the Manchester Union Leader.

O`DONNELL: And, Maria Teresa, the Ted Cruz surge seems as though it might be a little more real. He is coming up in polls in Iowa and he might be able to pull that off.

KUMAR: Well, I think he has, basically, been very closely following the lead of Donald Trump and basically recognizes that his base is whoever Donald Trump`s base is. And, he is playing that very closely to his vest.

But, I think what is interesting though is with the "Star Ledger" literally called today the editorial board over New Hampshire and said, have you been following this guy? Do you actually know what he has done as governor? And, the guy is kind of shrugged and said, "Actually, we do not." So, that was curious.


O`DONNELL: Yes. They do not need information up there.


O`DONNELL: Joy Reid, Maria Teresa Kumar and Jonathan Allen, thank you all for joining us tonight. I really appreciate it.

Tonight on Twitter, I asked you to send your guesses, what is in this picture? What is that? And "L" tweeted, "I helped raise money for one and train a driver a few years back." She got it right. The answer is coming up.



O`DONNELL: A 35-year-old Jennifer Markovsky moved to Colorado from Hawaii ten years ago when her husband Paul was reassigned by the United States Army. Jennifer accompanied a friend to Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs on Friday, where she was murdered just for being there.

Jennifer had two children, ages 10 and 6. The friend Jennifer accompanied to Planned Parenthood was shot and wounded in the hand. Jennifer Markovsky`s husband, Paul, released this statement tonight.

"I am shocked and deeply saddened by the tragic loss of my wife. She was a very caring and compassionate person and patient and understanding parent. She was deeply loved by all who knew her. She was always helping the kids do homework and reading books with them. We will miss her, her cooking, crafting, and adventurous spirit. We ask for privacy now as we try to begin the grief and healing process."

University of Colorado Police Officer Garrett Swasey was one of the first to arrive on the scene Friday`s shooting and he did the most courageous thing you could possibly do under the circumstances. He ran toward the shooter, toward the gunfire. Officer Swasey was shot and killed.

He was a six-year veteran of the university police. He was a Junior National Couple`s Ice Dancing Champion in the early 1990s. Former U.S. National champion, Nancy Kerrigan remembers that she skated with Garrett Swasey in Boston when they were both kids there.

Officer Swasey leaves his wife Rachel, 11-year-old son Elijah and 6-year- old daughter Faith. He was 44 years old. Officer Swasey`s wife Rachel said this. "His greatest joys were his family, his church, and his profession. We will cherish his memory, especially those times he spent tossing the football to his son and snuggling with his daughter on the couch."

A 29-year-old Ke`Arre Stewart survived the Iraq war, but he could not survive a visit to planned parenthood. The Iraq war veteran was the father of two girls, 11 years and 6 years old. He was shot on the parking lot, but that did not stop him. He continued moving into the clinic to warn others before he was shot to death. Ke`Arre Stewart accompanied his pregnant girlfriend to Planned Parenthood on Friday.


KENTANYA CRAION, KE`ARRE STEWART`S GIRLFRIEND: He sounded like an A-K, you could hear like just gunshots. And, from there the bullets went through the wall. You could see it. You could smell it.



LEYONTE CHANDLER, KE`ARRE STEWART`S BROTHER: He is the only brother that I had, and he took that away from me.


O`DONNELL: So, I asked you to guess what this is. On Twitter earlier, I told you it was -- it is made in Malawi and at least a couple of you got the right answers. The big winners of tonight`s quiz are next.


O`DONNELL: Tomorrow is giving Tuesday. After all that spending on the Friday after thanksgiving and today cyber Monday comes giving Tuesday, which is ruled by the spirit of generosity. It is a day marked globally and dedicated to giving back. It is a simple idea. Just find a way for your family, your community, your organization to try to give something more.

MSNBC has decided to get a head start on giving Tuesday right now by officially launching giving Tuesday on this program with my suggestion about how you can contribute to giving Tuesday. I asked you to guess what this is earlier tonight. And, we have a couple of winners.

A few of you -- a couple of you guessed that it is an ambulance. Seal Anne and Mike Graham are the big winner on our Twitter contest tonight. Here is another view of that ambulance with the top open.

The patient in distress is placed on that stretcher and then the roof is lowered over the patient to offer protection from the intense African sun or from the intense rain during rainy season.

There is a cheaper version of this ambulance that does not have a roof on it. The ambulance can be hooked to the back of a bicycle but in a lot of cases, it is simply pulled by someone on foot.

Now, we are lucky enough to live in a country where if we ever do have to ride in an ambulance it will be a lot fancier. But, in most parts of Malawi, you would be lucky if this ambulance showed up to get you.

Most villages do not even have an ambulance like this. But, more of them do now. Thanks to the K.I.N.D. fund, Kids In Need of Desks, the program that we created here on this program in partnership with UNICEF five years ago, to build these desks in Malawi and to deliver them in schools that do not have any desks.

The K.I.N.D. fund did not pay for that ambulance. I do not want you to think that. But this ambulance is made in one of our factories in Malawi that make desks for the K.I.N.D. fund, such is the synergy of the marketplace.

Because that factory has a large order from the K.I.N.D. fund to make thousands of desks, that factory has ordered large amounts of supplies of steel and wood. That factory is now in an active supply chain that makes it ready to produce other products, to expand its business, to hire more workers.

Building desks is still the primary business of that factory, but they are now also capable of filling smaller orders from time to time for ambulances like the one we showed you and hospital beds made of steel. The steel they have imported from South Africa primarily to make the desks.

The K.I.N.D. fund is an education program. Our mission is to get desks in the schools that otherwise would never have desks. And, also to pay for the continuing education of girls in Malawi where girl`s graduation rate from high school is a fraction of the boys` graduation rate.

But, before the K.I.N.D. fund creates a desk it creates a job. Many jobs. Making those desks. When we started the K.I.N.D. fund five years ago, Motion hired a handful of workers to make desks in the small space behind his hardware store in Lilongwe, the capital city of Malawi.

Motion is now making those desks in a large factory out on the edge of town and he plans to move to an even bigger factory that he is building right now. Steve Musali is one of the factory workers whose lives have been changed. Thanks to your generosity to the K.I.N.D. Fund.



O`DONNELL (voice-over): Steve dropped out of high school and his youngest sister, who is still in school, thanks to his ability to pay her high school tuition fees.


O`DONNELL (on camera): Public high school is not free in Malawi. And, if the family can manage to pay tuition for a student, that is more likely to be one of the boys in the family, who gets that support than one of the girls. Steve told me his life changed when he got this job.



O`DONNELL (voice-over): He said before he got the job, he could not afford to stay in a house. And, food was, as he put it, a bit of a problem. Now he says, "I can stay in a respectable house and I can afford to feed my family."


O`DONNELL (on camera): Steve lights up when he talks about his 2-year-old son, Stanley.



O`DONNELL (voice-over): He said that he is proud to know that one day Stanley will be sitting at a desk that he made. Steve said Stanley will be able to tell his classmates, quote, "This is my father`s work."


O`DONNELL (on camera): You can help Steve Musali continue that work by contributing to the K.I.N.D. Fund at You can contribute a desk or girls` tuition in the name of someone on your Christmas gift list. That is someone who has everything.

And, if you cannot afford to contribute this year, perhaps you can help us by tweeting about the K.I.N.D. Fund or mentioning it on Facebook. I have never seen more pure joy and excitement than when these desks that you have contributed arrived at the school.

Imagine the excitement for Steve Musali, a few years from now when he walks his son, Stanley, to school for the first time. Imagine Steve`s pride when he watches Stanley sit at that school desk for the first time.

Those magical moments will all have been made possible by your continuing generosity to the K.I.N.D. Fund. Imagine the day that little Stanley Musali sits at his desk for the first time. The first day of school is going to be exciting enough for Stanley.

But, he is going to experience something else, something very special that we hope all children can feel about their parents. As Stanley studies his new desk, feels it for the first time, imagine how proud he will be when he turns to the kids beside him and says, this is my father`s work.


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