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DEIRDRE BOLTON, RISK & REWARD SHOW HOST: Donald Trump was on Capitol Hill earlier. He met with House Speaker Paul Ryan, RNC chairman, Reince Priebus. The goal, unity.
This is Risk & Reward. I'm Deirdre Bolton.
More republican leaders are backing Donald Trump, so you have Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, former house speaker John Boehner and the National Republican Congressional Committee chairman, Greg Walden. Even Senator Lindsey Graham is changing his tune.
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LINDSEY GRAHAM, FORMER SOUTH CAROLINA SENATOR: I just can't go where Donald Trump would take us. I don't think he is qualified to be commander- in-chief. I will support every other country in the country but I can't go where Trump takes us.
The fact that he reached out, that we had a good discussion is a positive thing. I will focus on the House and Senate.
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BOLTON: Senator Graham made it clear that's not an endorsement but some of the themes to come out of the meeting on the hill, Trump and Speaker Ryan, both acknowledging that unifying takes time especially after divisive primaries and Donald Trump is bringing new voters to the Republican Party.
Peter Barnes in D.C. where it all happens. So, Peter what is your read on tone?
PETER BARNES, FOX NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, the republicans, Deirdre, at least for their part, including Ryan said this was good first step trying to heal the party after this brutal primary process as you mentioned.
The meeting with Ryan as you recall, was put together after Ryan declined to endorse Trump as the republican -- the presumptive republican nominee when Trump's last rivals dropped out last week, and Ryan did not do so at a press conference today after his meeting with Trump.
Ryan told reporters, it's a process, it takes time. It does not come together. After a 45-minute meeting, Ryan does not want to have a fake unification process.
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PAUL RYAN, SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: I think we had a very encouraging meeting. Look, it is no secret that Donald Trump and I have had our differences. We talked about those differences today. That's common knowledge. The question is that we need to do to unify the Republican Party and all strains of conservative wings in the party?
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BARNES: Trump also held meetings with the Senate republican leaders after meeting with Ryan. And after all of that, Trump tweeted out quote, "great day in D.C. with Speaker Ryan and republican leadership. Things working out really well."
Once source provided Fox News with this unvarnished assessment of the Ryan meeting, quote, "no B.S. very helpful." Deirdre.
BOLTON: Good clear language, Peter Barnes. Thank you very much.
BARNES: You bet.
BOLTON: For more on the meeting with Trump, the national spokesperson, Katrina Pierson is with me now. Katrina, thanks as always for the time.
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KATRINA PIERSON, DONALD TRUMP NATIONAL SPOKESPERSON: Hi, Deirdre.
BOLTON: Did the meetings today meet the Trump campaign goals?
PIERSON: Well, yes. There really were no expectations for endorsements today. Mr. Trump has always been committed to moving towards party unity. And this was one of those opportunities to do that.
BOLTON: OK. So, how important speaking of unity is it to Donald Trump to have the so-called establishment back him? I imagine it is easier, if they're with him versus against him but how does he see it?
PIERSON: Well, I think, the way Mr. Trump put it other day was very simple. You know, he is going to do whatever he can to bring the party together but there are going to be those who don't want to support him for whatever reason.
There are significant differences when it comes to amnesty, when it comes to trade. And those are things that he is not willing to compromise on. But I will say, we have party unity. You have Reince priebus who came out and said that Mr. Trump is the presumptive nominee.
You have other republicans that have come out. People like Dick Cheney came out and supported him. We have six chairmen of the house supports Mr. Trump just yesterday. So we are going to have unity. And for some of those others it will take a little bit of time but I'm very confident.
BOLTON: For example, the former Bush presidents I know are not going to the convention. Neither is Governor Mitt Romney. I want to ask you more about today, because former House Speaker John Boehner says that Speaker Ryan is probably trying to shape some of Trump's policies. Is that true?
PIERSON: I'm not quite sure what Speaker Ryan is wanting to do. Mr. Trump has been very clear that his priorities are national security, jobs and the economy and that's been pretty much a clear-cut direction for many republicans in the base.
But we have to look at how things have been governed in the past. There are a lot of voters who were not happy with a trillion dollar stimulus package. And so there are some discrepancies there.
And with regards to the former Bushes and Romney, look, this is probably a good thing, because we are not those republicans. We are republicans who are inclusive, who have very strong principles, even conservative principles. And that's why Mr. Trump has brought along so many.
BOLTON: So, to that point I think that's why at least some in the party see that if Speaker Ryan would endorse Donald Trump, that on that topic of fiscal, let's call it restraint or discipline, that that would be a good person to have in his corner. Is Speaker Ryan's hesitation on Donald Trump's nerves?
PIERSON: No, I don't think so. Mr. Trump is very forward-looking. He is focused on moving towards clinching the nomination, number one and then going up against Hillary Clinton. This is just a process that we have to go through to get to that point, because Mr. Trump does want everyone to be comfortable with him being the nominee.
He is going to continue bring in millions of new voters in the general. He has already shown that he has crossover appeal with independents and disenfranchised democrats. And the polling in the swing states just prove that he is the right candidate for November.
BOLTON: Well, as we know and we did report in Massachusetts, for example, to your point, something like 20,000 voters actually switched parties to be able to vote for Donald Trump.
But Senator Lindsey Graham spoke about this cordial, pleasant phone conversation. What did Donald Trump say about that because Lindsey Graham has been very colorful in his language at times in regards to Trump's candidacy?
PIERSON: Well he hasn't really discussed that but I do think there are a lot of individuals who are coming to Mr. Trump's aid because they do see, if they didn't see it before, Deirdre, they see it now. That there is a lot of energy, a lot of excitement behind Donald Trump's candidacy and this concept that we do have a pro-America message that is resonating with people all over the country and that's the team you want to be on.
BOLTON: Katrina, thank you as always. Katrina Pierson with us there.
PIERSON: Great to be here. Thank you.
BOLTON: Trump national spokesman. Well, speaking of that energy, early backers of Donald Trump may feel vindicated by his campaign success so far.
Representative Lou Barletta of Pennsylvania probably one. Congressman, welcome.
LOU BARLETTA, PENNSYLVANIA REPRESENTATIVE: Hi. Thank you.
BOLTON: You endorsed Donald Trump a long time ago. What did you see in him as presidential candidate that let you support him earlier than most?
BARLETTA: Well Donald Trump was willing to talk about things that people were thinking here in America and not afraid to do in a way most Americans talk about it and you know, the American people have lost faith with Washington.
They think politicians tell them what they want to hear but really don't do anything about it. Donald Trump has touch the nerve across America and I saw that. I saw courage to take on immigration, something very important to me.
To talk about America first and American jobs here. So, you know, I saw that and I saw, an energy and excitement that I haven't seen for a candidate in my lifetime.
BOLTON: So, congressman, I am glad you talked about immigration and jobs, because to your point, that seems to be even with exit polling, why people do want to support him. Senator Orrin Hatch of Utah, long-serving GOP Senator, just endorsing Donald Trump, former House Speaker John Boehner.
Did you think that the party would come together? What is your stance? You feel like there is a lot longer to go? What is your feeling?
BARLETTA: I don't think there should be any longer to go. Donald Trump is our nominee. I mean, what's their option? Hillary Clinton? We're going to let Hillary Clinton pick the Supreme Court justices? We're going to let Hillary Clinton pick secretary of Homeland Security and Health and Human Services?
Do we think a democrat administration with policies that have crippled this country are good? I don't understand what the decision is. It seems pretty simple to me. And those who are not on board I think need to get on board pretty quickly.
BOLTON: So, congressman, do you think republicans maybe want to that are different than yourself, that is to say, want to or hesitating or still haven't decided, will they get on board because of the energy that you spoke about and just say OK, he is leader we get behind, whether or not he was our first pick, too bad?
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BARLETTA: What is their option.
BOLTON: Or do you think they really will come around to believing in him?
BARLETTA: You know, what's their option? There is nobody behind door number three. We know who is behind door number one. It's Hillary Clinton. We need a republican in the White House. And the worst thing that we could do now is keep saying that he is not good enough for, you know, we want some imaginary nominee who is not there.
Donald Trump clearly is the choice of the people and the party doesn't belong to anybody here in Washington. With no disrespect to anyone here, it belongs to the people. The people have spoken in a record number. It's time for everybody in Washington to get behind our nominee and let's focus on beating Hillary Clinton.
BOLTON: Congressman, we thank you very much.
BARLETTA: Thank you.
BOLTON: Congressman Lou Barletta of Pennsylvania.
BARLETTA: Thank you.
BOLTON: He has endorsed Donald Trump, you heard him say based on Donald Trump's stance on jobs and immigration.
U.S. stocks closing mostly lower today. The NASDAQ falling by the most, Apple a big part of that. The stock down by more than 2 percent. Its biggest drop in about two years' time.
Well, Hillary Clinton says she is under a security inquiry. The problem with that term is that the FBI director James Comey says there is no such thing. He says it is a probe, an official one. We're going to bring you his full comment.
Also, a federal ruling came down against ObamaCare. A judge ruled that the Obama administration has been improperly funding the Affordable Care Act. We will tell you what it means for the plan and you, the taxpayers going forward.
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ANDREW NAPOLITANO, FOX NEWS SENIOR JUDICIAL ANALYST: This is another example of President Barack Obama doing something as the executive which the Constitution says only the Congress can do.
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JOSH EARNEST, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: This is not the first time we've seen opponents of the Affordable Care Act go through the motions to try to win this political fight in the court system.
Suit represents the first time in our nation's history that Congress has been permitted to sue the executive branch over a disagreement about how to interpret a statute.
NAPOLITANO: This is another example of President Barack Obama doing something as the executive which the Constitution says only the Congress can do. He is dead wrong on this! This is not a dispute about the interpretation of a statute.
This is a dispute about the interpretation of the Constitution whether or not Congress can, whether or not the president can violate the Constitution which says only Congress can spend the people's money.
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BOLTON: In a challenge to President Obama, and the Affordable Health Care Act, otherwise known as ObamaCare, a federal judge ruled against it.
So, House republicans had launch a suit, claiming the Obama administration has been improperly funding insurers without permission from Congress. The judge says that the order is pending because of a likely appeal by the administration.
With me now attorney Kelly Saindon. Kelly, welcome back. What exactly does this lawsuit, this legal win mean for the Obama administration and for taxpayers?
KELLY SAINDON, ATTORNEY: Hi, there. Thanks for having me back.
So, for taxpayers it means potentially they could have to pay higher copays and higher deductibles for health insurance if it is upheld. Because it means that money wasn't allocated by Congress to cover those copays or deductibles.
For insurance companies to get reimbursed by Congress. So, what it means for insurance companies is, they could be out of luck, that they're not getting money allocated back to them by the government. ObamaCare...
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BOLTON: So, essentially, if you appeal, I'm just going to slow you down. Because you're an expert. You know this.
SAINDON: OK.
BOLTON: But for everyone who didn't go to law school we just want to slow it down in a sense that if this appeal by the administration is heard...
SAINDON: Yes.
BOLTON: ... you're essentially saying its status quo and that leaves people pretty much where they are today?
SAINDON: If the appeal is heard, and the ruling that came down today is upheld, so if the judge's ruling is upheld that this is unconstitutional, that money wasn't set aside in order to pay for this, that there is not going to be reimbursement to the hospitals, then it will not be status quo for the people.
They will hit them in the pocketbook. They will have to pay more for copays and lots of people will drop out of ObamaCare and risk the fines because this subsidy that they thought they were going to get from the government will disappear.
BOLTON: So, Kelly, based on what you know about timing, when are we going to find out what happens?
SAINDON: Usually, they've been fast tracking all of these Obama care cases. So, I will guess that we will know this within the next year.
BOLTON: OK.
SAINDON: If you -- so no time soon but people are getting very nervous.
BOLTON: I'm sure.
SAINDON: This is -- this is just a huge ruling because ObamaCare as you recall was pushed through and people were nervous about the implementation. And now it is destabilization across the board because health care providers are nervous saying this is $150 billion out of our pockets in the future and people that have health insurance are now saying great.
It costs more than we were told.
BOLTON: Right.
SAINDON: And this is looking to cost us more in the future. So, I may be uninsured in the future anyway.
BOLTON: I think most people are universally unhappy with the program so far. I want to steer you, if you don't mind, to get advice on another legal matter.
SAINDON: Sure.
BOLTON: Because this is in regards to Hillary Clinton's private e-mail server. She says the FBI probe is what she is calling a 'security inquiry' and not a criminal investigation.
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HILLARY CLINTON, (D) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: There is a security inquiry going on and, you know, we respect that. It is on its own timetable but it's moving forward.
The Justice Department has the e-mails. They have the server. They're conducting a security inquiry. I said what I've said now for many, many months. It's a security inquiry.
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BOLTON: FBI director James Comey rebuffed Clinton's claim. He told Fox News's Catherine Herridge quote, "We are conducting an investigation. That is the bureau's business. That's what we do. I am not familiar with the term, quote, unquote, "security inquiry.""
So, Kelly, what do you make of her statements which I assume is somewhat natural to want to deflect, but more importantly, the FBI director's comments?
SAINDON: Hillary Clinton is trying to protect herself and she's running a presidential campaign, so she's trying to say, look over here, let's just pretend it is security issue, maybe there is a breach. FBI is saying enough is enough, there is criminal matter. And we are investigating whether or not we're prosecuting you.
I think they were trying to stay silent and give her the benefit of the doubt. But she has been disputing the validity of that. And they are like, enough. Lady, if we find it were prosecuting you, so stop talking.
BARNETT: So, Kelly, when you go to parties, when you go to dinners, I'm sure everybody is asking you, you're an attorney, what do you think is going to happen? So, I have to ask you the same thing. In your view what happens to Hillary Clinton?
SAINDON: You know, she has been so successful for so long dodging bullets. Her family name, they have been very successful. She should be prosecuted for violating a number of laws as it relates to using her private e-mails, deleting private e-mails, and using private e-mails for government business.
Many people lost jobs over much smaller infractions. So, just looking at the letter of the law as its written and what we know about things that have been done and deletion of e-mails, she absolutely should face prosecution in a criminal form.
BOLTON: Kelly, thank you.
SAINDON: Thanks for having me.
BOLTON: Kelly Saindon joining me there.
Quick look at oil settling higher for the third straight session, just off a six-month highs. Analyst say crude supply will ease because production will slow, so long story short, expect prices to stay pretty much where they are.
Some say hypocrisy is front and center at Apple. New pictures show Apple workers in China. And you can see they look like eerie deserted dorms that the workers are staying in. My next says that Tim Cook pushes liberal policies except in some very select cases.
Reports of ISIS demise have been greatly exaggerated. The terrorist group just came out with an app for kids. We'll show it to you.
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BARACK OBAMA, UNITED STATES OF AMERICA PRESIDENT: They do not threaten our national existence. ISIL is on the defensive. Our 66 member coalition including Arab partners is on the offensive.
There are fewer ISIL fighters on the battlefield in Syria and Iraq. And for those who are there, it's harder for them to recruit and replenish their ranks.
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BOLTON: Breaking news. Fed chair Janet Yellen in a letter to a member of Congress says she expects the economy to continue to strengthen. She says inflation will return to 2 percent over time. Those are her words.
The fed she says, will adjust policy if economic outlook changes and she will not rule out negative interest rates.
An employee at CENTCOM's joint intelligence office says she was reassigned for supposedly cursing at work. Carolyn Stuart says the real reason she was punished is because she spoke out about military officials downplaying the threat of ISIS.
Act for America president, author of, "They Must be Stopped," is with me now, Brigitte Gabriel. Welcome back, Brigitte. Glad you are here. Is this a coincidence this worker was disciplined twice?
BRIGITTE GABRIEL, NATIONAL SECURITY AND TERRORISM ANALYST: No, this is not a coincidence. This unfortunately has been happening in the military for a long time. It started even when President Bush was in office before he left but it was, it became aggravated after President Obama took office.
I speak to generals all the time, and a lot of them are afraid to speak what's on their mind. They are afraid of being fired or being discharged honorably. I know generals, one general in particular who tells me I look at clock, and I wait till 5 o'clock so I can leave because he is so discouraged. That's the level of...
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BOLTON: That's surprising given how much responsibility that person has and how much all citizens need that person's service?
GABRIEL: Yes. Exactly.
BOLTON: So, we do know, or there is at least significant evidence that the threats of ISIS was downplayed in the early stages of the terrorist group's growth.
Is there now in D.C., at least a recognition that the U.S. administration, the Obama administration was very wrong on that front?
GABRIEL: Well, unfortunately that's not even admitting that they were wrong. Nobody on the higher level of our government has admitted that yet. They still think and President Obama is leading saying that we are winning the war against ISIS, they're not as strong as when they started.
But again, it goes into a lot of people are afraid to admit. Because then if they admit they were wrong, that means they either lied to us in the beginning or they lacked information, they lacked management, they lacked leadership.
And this is why you are seeing right now, an awakening in our country, an awakening for elected leaders and officials to speak the truth and defend the nation. We know there is a problem, whether you're democrat or republican. People in this country are feeling that there is something majorly wrong with the country and we need to fix it.
BOLTON: So, let me ask you about this, Brigitte, because obviously you know the Middle East well. You have lived there. Spent part of your life there.
I saw something today, that ISIS is developing an app for kids. And we're going to put some of the full shots for viewers to follow but, if they are recruiting to children. I mean, can't we trace down who is creating these kinds of software packages?
GABRIEL: You know, you would think with technology nowadays you can track anything. I mean, I'm not a technology expert but I can tell you I know that people can look at IPs or where something is originating.
But this goes to show you how sophisticated ISIS has become. They are way ahead of us when it comes to technology. And the use of technology and the use of gaining public opinion, using their technology, at least where it matters, where they are trying to recruit.
But they are following the same pattern that the Palestinian authority have followed immediately after they took control specifically in the gaza and the Palestinian territories when they started having cartoons in Disneyland, teaching children how to kill and how to be proud of martyrs.
ISIS took it to the next level, they are teaching children how to read Arabic, basically the first words in learning Arabic, using rifles, cannons, and for someone like me who can hears the stuff in Arabic, it is chilling to hear children's voices saying words in Arabic.
BOLTON: Brigitte, you're speaking as you said with some military officials. You yourself are a Middle Eastern analyst. What is the next best step?
GABRIEL: The next best step is to throw political correctness in the garbage and start identifying our enemy and our military leaders need to know that there is someone backing them at the White House, who believes in our military, supports our military, and will unleash the shackles from around our military's ankles and let them do what they know how to do best and what they are trained to do in order to win this war.
Let the generals win the war. And let the politicians do what they do best, sit around and sip coffee on Capitol Hill.
BOLTON: All right, Brigitte. Unbelievable clarity. We are grateful for it. Brigitte Gabriel with me there. Thank you.
GABRIEL: Thank you.
BOLTON: Gold losing its luster today. If you take a look at where it closed. But best quarter in almost 30 years. So, if you looked at how it performed on a three-month basis you do have record numbers as more and more investors seek a kind of shelter if you like, a flight to safety. Gold certainly perceived as one of those.
Well, hypocrisy alert. A new pictures are out of eerie deserted dorm rooms where Apple iPhone workers live in China.
My next guest says Apple CEO Tim Cook won't crack a terrorist iPhone, but he will definitely terrorize of sorts, his own workers.
All right. After being accused of blocking conservative stories, new documents leaks to prove that Facebook relies on editors who choose stories in their trending news feed.
We're going to show you some of the data.
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MARK ZUCKERBERG, FACEBOOK CEO: I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as others. Instead of building walls we can help people build bridges.
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ZUCKERBERG: I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as others. Instead of building walls, we can help people build bridges. And instead of dividing people, we can help bring people together.
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BOLTON: Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg last month indirectly criticizing Donald Trump over his controversial idea to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico. Now, speaking of Facebook, there are allegations that its news feed division is blocking conservative stories. So new documents obtained by the Guardian Newspaper in the U.K. shows that Facebook's news feed is organized by humans, not by algorithms. With me now, conservative radio host Gina Loudon. Gina, it is great to see you.
GINA LOUDON, CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST: Great to be in studio with you.
BOLTON: So as far as Facebook's news feed go, their defense, so to speak, has always been, well, we don't really have a lot of people working on these things.
LOUDON: Right.
BOLTON: A lot of it is machine-generated, algorithmically generated, but now it seems that's not the case, right?
LOUDON: That's not the case. And it seems that they have a certain level of tolerance for certain stories, and not a certain level of tolerance for other stories. So I don't know, Deirdre, maybe it's time that Facebook appoints some sensitivity training for conservative thought.
BOLTON: Or an editor.
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LOUDON: There you go. Or just be honest about how it's done. If it's really something that's posted, the most hits should figure up to the top. There are free market solutions for this that conservatives need to be careful.
BOLTON: So what would you suggest?
LOUDON: Well, government needs to stay out of this, that's the first thing, because this is a crisis that they can talk about and come up with government solutions. But free market is good. And here's how you do it. You don't like their advertisements. If you're angry about the way.
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BOLTON: So you need to vote with your wallet.
LOUDON: You're talking with your pocketbook, that's exactly right. And we have a right to do that, and we also have a right to compete. You know, we're in the technology age. Look, Deirdre, what has happened to newspapers. So many newspapers going down the tubes, for this exact reason, and I'm telling you, prediction right here. If Facebook doesn't change its ways and start being more honest about the way they're doing business, there's going to be a big competitor to come along, and they'll be made the way of the dinosaur, like to many newspapers.
