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Criminals First; Tech Executives to Meet With Trump Today; Philippines
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[10:30:00] SEN. ED MARKEY (D), MASSACHUSETTS: Being put at the center of our energy policy, of our economic policy, of our environmental policy and our foreign policy. And that is a very dangerous concoction for the future. Oil policy is not --
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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: Why do you think it's dangerous? Because many Americans say we should be totally energy independent and it's dangerous for us not to be.
MARKEY: Well, right now, the oil industry wants to export the oil which we have in the United States before we have reached energy independence. That's the position of ExxonMobil. That's the position of the governor of Texas. Export our oil that we have right now. How can that be good for our national security? How can that be good for the long-term relationships which we have with countries around the world?
We have to look at this very closely to make sure that our national interests align with the interests of these nominees who come from an industry perspective which isn't always aligned with our long-term foreign policy, economic policy, environment or energy policy interests.
COSTELLO: Have to leave it there. Senator Ed Markey, thanks so much for being with me this morning.
Still to come in the NEWSROOM, Donald Trump vows to deport immigrants with criminal records first. I'll talk to a woman who has a criminal record. She fears being deported at any moment now.
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COSTELLO: After suggesting he would implement a deportation force during the campaign, Donald Trump has seemingly tailored his immigration plans to a specific group now that he's been elected.
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[10:35:01] LESLIE STAHL, CBS NEWS: What about the pledge to deport millions and millions of undocumented immigrants? DONALD TRUMP, PRESIDENT-ELECT: What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal, have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers. We have a lot of these people, probably two million, it could even be three million. We are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate. But we are getting them out of our country. They are here illegally. After the border is secured and after everything gets normalized we're going to make a determination on the people that you're talking about.
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COSTELLO: My next guest is all too familiar with this issue. Her name is Lundy Khoy. Her parents brought her to this country from Cambodia when she was just 1 year old. She's a legal U.S. resident but she also has a criminal record, something she writes about in a "New York Times" op-ed directed at Mr. Trump.
Lundy, good morning.
LUNDY KHOY, CAMBODIAN-AMERICAN IMMIGRANT: Good morning. Thank you for having me today.
COSTELLO: And thank you for being here, because I was just going to say it's incredibly brave of you to have written that op-ed and to appear on national television.
KHOY: Yes. It's scary. It's a scary time. And it's been a scary time for me for quite a long time for not just myself, but for my family and my son and my husband. So I'm trying my best to try to fight this and remain here in the U.S., you know, because I have been here since I was 1. I have never been to Cambodia.
COSTELLO: Well, let me take our viewers back to the beginning so that they understand. Your parents fled Cambodia in fear for their lives way back in 1981. They eventually settled in California. You were 1 year old at the time. So you don't have U.S. citizenship but you certainly consider yourself an American, right?
KHOY: Absolutely. Yes. Everything about me is American. You know, I have been living here since I was 1. I grew up here, I've never left the country, and everything I know in my life is everything American. You know? So to want to deport me to a country that I have never set foot on, I was actually born in a refugee camp in Thailand. My parents had to flee their country because of genocide and war, where millions and millions of Cambodians died. So bringing me here, and I was only 1, and now I'm 36 years old and all I know is America.
COSTELLO: So here's the problem that you have. You went to college, right.
KHOY: Yes.
COSTELLO: And you did what so many other college students do, sometimes. You did something really stupid and you were arrested for possessing ecstasy. And you actually served some time in jail. So tell us about that. KHOY: Yes, ma'am. I -- when I was 19 years old, my first year of college, I didn't have a lot of freedom in high school so I made some really poor choices my first year of college because I wanted to fit in and I was introduced to ecstasy and at the time didn't know that it was an illegal substance. I honestly told the cops when they approached me about drugs, I shared it with them that I did have these pills and learned they're illegal and I could be sentenced to 10 years. But the judge let me out after three months in jail and she let me out because, you know, you're not a drug dealer, you're not selling drugs out of a basement, you're obviously dumb and young and naive so she let me out of jail and gave me four years of probation.
COSTELLO: OK. And in the interim, you went to work, you became a great citizen, you wanted to make your parents proud.
KHOY: Yes.
COSTELLO: And you have, but there came a day not so long ago that the immigration police came. What happened?
KHOY: Yes. That was a nightmare. I thought I was just going to a regular like probation meeting. My probation officer had asked me to come in and I went there even with my report card to show her the grades, I was getting A's, and I was working full-time, getting good grades, and wanted to share this with her. And when I went into my probation meeting, it turned that it was immigration officers and they immediately arrested me and said that I am going to be detained, and I'm going to court, and I will be most likely deported to Cambodia because of my conviction when I was 19 years old.
COSTELLO: So that deportation order has been hanging over your head for how long?
KHOY: Since I was 23 years old. And now I'm 36. So more than 15 years.
[10:40:03] COSTELLO: So you've been fighting it, you've retained a lawyer, and now Donald Trump is going to become president of the United States. So what do you think will happen?
KHOY: Well, right now I have a final order of deportation. My lawyer and I discussed it, you know, what we can do is get the federal government to agree to reopen my case and complete a cancellation of deportation so I can remain here with my family, or the president can give me a pardon, so I can also -- you know, that's another option, but there's just so much uncertainty, Miss Costello.
I just -- I don't know what else to do. So in 2012 was when I decided I need to share my story, because I'm not a drug dealer, I'm not a gang member, I'm just an ordinary person that just wants to stay home, you know, where I feel like I belong.
COSTELLO: What would you say to those people who are listening who say, you know what, I feel so -- I feel -- my heart aches for you, but you did break the law and we have to obey the law in the United States, and you have to go? KHOY: Yes. It's -- the immigration laws are very strict and rigid. I have been punished for my crime already. And I feel that sending me to a country that I have never been to, that I don't know anybody, I'm not really familiar with the country at all, it's more than just -- it's a life sentence. And I just don't think that's a humane thing to do to someone. Myself or anyone, to be sending them off to some place that they are not familiar with.
COSTELLO: All right. I have to leave it there.
Lundy Khoy, all the best to you. And thank you so much for being with me this morning and sharing your story.
And by the way, last year, just so you know, 400,000 people were deported by the U.S. government. I'll be right back.
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[10:45:43] COSTELLO: All right. This news just in to CNN. This coming out of the transition team. Sources now telling CNN's Sara Murray that Eric Trump was also present for at least one of his father's meetings with the former secretary of state candidate, Mitt Romney. That's in addition to the news earlier that Donald Trump Jr. personally interviewed some of the candidates for Interior secretary.
Now keep in mind, both of the Trump boys are supposedly running Trump's enterprise and Mr. Trump is now trying to figure out how to separate his conflicts of interest with his businesses from his duties as president of the United States. We'll keep you posted.
One other development to tell you about. Earlier this hour we told you about this questionnaire that was sent to Department of Energy employees. It was a 74-question questionnaire and it was sent specifically to scientists studying climate change. Sources are now telling us from the Trump team that the questionnaire was not authorized or part of a standard protocol.
We also understand the person who sent that questionnaire to the Department of Energy has been, quote, "counseled."
Also, in just a few hours, executives from some of the most powerful tech companies in the world will be meeting with Donald Trump. That list includes Jeff Bezos of Amazon, Tim Cook from Apple, Elon Musk from Tesla, as well as big names from Facebook, Intel, Microsoft and Alphabet, Google's parent company. And remember, a lot of these execs took swings at Trump during the campaign. Oh, to be a fly on the wall. Right?
Laurie Segall has more. She's live at the Trump Tower. Hi, Laurie.
LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY TECH CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Carol. Yes, to be a fly on the wall at this meeting. I mean, you have Silicon Valley which has traditionally been anti-Trump, pro-Hillary, pro-President Obama.
I'm told that the meeting today is going to be all about jobs, and bringing jobs back into the United States. Now, you know, that being said, you get a lot of these people together, there's been a lot of rhetoric, you can see a little Silicon Valley leaders have been a little bit nervous about. You have had Trump criticize Apple CEO Tim Cook, who's going to be in the room, about manufacturing products in China. You've heard him come out against Jeff Bezos talking about antitrust violations and tax evasion. He's also come out against Facebook for immigration policy.
So all of those people coming in today for a hopefully productive conversation, and one conversation that happened yesterday which is a bit surprising, folks didn't know he was stopping by, was Bill Gates who came by Trump Tower yesterday to have a conversation.
Listen to what he said about the meeting he had with Donald Trump.
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BILL GATES, MICROSOFT FOUNDER: A lot of his message has been about things where he sees things not as good as he'd like, but in the same way that President Kennedy talked about the space mission and got the country behind that, I think that whether it's education or stopping epidemics, other health breakthroughs, finishing polio, and in this energy space, there can be a very upbeat message that his administration is going to organize things, get rid of regulatory barriers, and have American leadership through innovation be one of the things that he gets behind.
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SEGALL: And Carol, let me clarify that. That was actually before his meeting. And you know, I think having this productive conversation is what a lot of the tech CEOs want to have. And I'll tell you this, I was out in San Francisco last week and there's a lot of anxiety from people and tech leaders about a lot of the rhetoric Donald Trump has been putting out there so perhaps this is an opportunity.
I actually met an engineer who is carrying around his passport with him. Another group of engineers that were afraid to leave the country. So that's something that you can imagine tech leaders might bring up while the topic might be jobs and trade and tax reform, topics that he's come out against like immigration and speaking about security might come up today as well. The meeting happens at 2:00 p.m. today. So we'll keep you guys updated.
COSTELLO: All right. We appreciate it. Laurie Segall, thanks.
Checking some other top stories for you at 49 minutes past. The man who opened fire in the Washington, D.C. pizzeria while self- investigating an online conspiracy theories will now face federal charges. Edgar Welch allegedly traveled to the shop to check out whether the business was harboring child sex slaves. He's being charged with interstate transportation of a firearm with attempt to commit an offense.
Trial resumes this morning in South Carolina in that church shooting case. [10:50:03] Chilling new video released into evidence. And that's the video, that's Dylann Roof. He's taking target practice. He's firing a gun at balloons. Last week the jury heard Roof confessed to the killings of those nine parishioners at AME Church. The prosecution is expected to rest its case today.
New developments into the investigation into that cargo ship that sank off the coast of the Bahamas a year ago. The NTSB just released more than 500 pages of audio transcript from the El Faro. The audio highlights conversations between the captain and the crew in the ship's final moments. Just before the audio ends, a crew member says, I'm a goner. The ship's 28 American crew members and five Polish nationals died in that incident.
The president of the Philippines has admitted to killing suspected criminals while he was serving as mayor. Rodrigo Duterte is waging a so-called war on drugs, but as the death toll in the Philippines climbs, critics say law enforcement officials are acting like judge, jury and executioner.
Here's what the Filipino president said at a business forum about killing suspects.
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RODRIGO DUTERTE, PHILIPPINE PRESIDENT: But in Davao I used to do it personally, just to show to the guys that if I can do it, why can't you? And I go around Davao with a motorcycle with a big bike around, and I would just patrol the states, and looking for trouble also.
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COSTELLO: CNN's Matt Rivers in Beijing with more. Hi, Matt.
MATT RIVERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Carol. This is a president that we have been following for some time now and we are very used to hearing him make some shocking statements, but what he said on Monday in Manila certainly takes the cake in terms of what we've heard him say recently, when he was talking about his time in Davao City, that's something that those of us who have followed him and his career very closely know that those were the kind of things that he used to do around that part of the Philippines. In fact, he would encourage extrajudicial killings.
And so then perhaps these comments aren't actually that surprising because he has admitted to this before. On the radio, in 2015, he actually admitted during his first term as mayor of Davao City in 1988 to personally killing three men who were accused of rape and kidnapping and subsequently said he felt absolutely no remorse because they deserved to die. There was no due process, of course, but that was the environment that he encouraged during his several decades as mayor of that city.
He was installed as president of the Philippines, won an election earlier this year, and he kind of took those policies and instituted them nationwide. So you mentioned that drug war. Since July 1st of this year -- more than 5900 people have been killed during this war on drugs. That includes drug dealers and drug users. But perhaps the more amazing part is one-third of those killings have been, according to our journalists in the Philippines, one third were conducted by police, two-thirds by these vigilante squads, these so-called death squads that are running around killing people.
And what you've heard from President Duterte is double down and says he does not have to apologize to anyone who accuses him of human rights abuses. He says what he's doing in the Philippines is needed and justified and he won't apologize to anybody -- Carol.
COSTELLO: All right. Matt Rivers reporting live from Beijing.
Coming up in the NEWSROOM, first there was WikiLeaks. Now Wakey- leaks. A radio announcer from Wake Forest fired for allegedly giving secret info to rivals.
Andy Scholes coming up next.
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[10:57:37] COSTELLO: OK. So here are a couple of stories you don't hear often in sports. Wake Forest says they have found the mole within their program and dude looks like a lady. Not anymore, if you play professional baseball.
Andy Scholes is here with today's "Bleacher Report." Hi, Andy.
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Carol. Let's start with that Wake Forest story which is rather unbelievable. Wake Forest says that their radio announcer, who was a former player and assistant coach, provided or attempted to provide confidential game preparations to opponents several times starting back in 2014.
The man's name is Tommy Elrod. He has been fired and banned from Wake Forest Athletics but before that Elrod had unlimited access to the team.
Wake Forest originally started an investigation after their equipment manager found play sheets inside Louisville Stadium before their game with the Cardinals in November. Head coach Dave Clawson released a statement saying in part that it's incomprehensible that Elrod would betray his alma mater the way he did. Elrod has not yet commented on these accusations.
The NFL announcing on Tuesday for the first time ever they will play four games in London next season. Here are the matchups. You're going to have the Ravens taking on the Jags, the Saints will play the Dolphins, the Browns who may still be looking for a win will play the Vikings and then the Cardinals will take on the Rams.
Finally, Major League Baseball has created an anti-hazing and anti- bullying policy that bans its players from dressing up as women. That's according to the AP. In the past, you know, we've seen players dress up as Hooter's waitresses or cheerleaders as part of rookie initiation. But not anymore. Paul Mifsud, vice president of MLB, told the AP the new rule that resulted partly because of social media and how the pictures of the players were perceived.
And Carol, I got to tell you what, this has gotten mixed reaction from the players. A lot of them not happy about it because they said, you know, the part of the players dressing up or the rookies dressing up as women was a team building activity that many of them have been doing for years.
COSTELLO: Wait. Wait, wait. Dressing up as a woman is a team building -- what? Come on.
SCHOLES: You know, rookie initiation process, Carol. I'm just passing it along.
COSTELLO: OK. I've always wondered why it's funny for a man to dress up as a woman. Why is that funny?
SCHOLES: I have no idea, Carol. I -- to me it's not.
COSTELLO: Have you ever done it, Andy?
SCHOLES: I have actually never done it, Carol. And I don't think I ever will. Especially after this.
COSTELLO: And I don't think you'd ever admit it. Exactly. Thank you, Andy Scholes.
SCHOLES: All right.
COSTELLO: And thank you for joining me today. I'm Carol Costello. "AT THIS HOUR WITH BERMAN AND BOLDUAN" starts now.
(Byline: Carol Costello, Laurie Segall, Matt Rivers, Andy Scholes)
(Guest: Ed Markey, Lundy Khoy)
(High: Democratic senator on Trump's nominees for secretary of State and Energy. Woman who said she's an immigrant with a criminal record fighting to stay in America. Tech execs included Jeff Bezos of Amazon, Tim Cook from Apple, Elon Musk from Tesla, and big names from Facebook, Intel, Microsoft and Google's Alphabet. Chilling revelation from Filipino president during time as mayor of Davao City. The report said Wake Forest radio announcer provided or attempted to provide confidential game preparations to opponents several times starting back in 2014. New MLB hazing rules banned dressing as women.)
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