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[19:30:06] They got back less than a dime.
GINGRAS (voice-over): In fact, the company's stock, DJT, Trump's initials, lost 89 percent of its value during its time on the market, between 1995 and 2005. During the same time, the S&P 500, a broad indicator of stock performance gained about 125 percent. While Trump investors lost out, Trump received at least $40 million in compensation.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I had great timing. I got out, and I made a lot of money in Atlantic City over the years. I have to look at myself. I have to look at my company, and I made a lot of money.
GINGRAS: Buffett, a Clinton supporter not only challenged Trump on his business record, but also on not releasing his tax returns.
BUFFETT: He can pick the place, any time between now and Election Day.
GINGRAS: Trump says it's because he's under an IRS audit. Buffett says he, too, is under audit by the IRS, but that's no reason to withhold it.
BUFFETT: Nobody's going to arrest us. There are no rules against showing your tax returns. You're only -- you're only afraid if you have something to be afraid about.
GINGRAS: It's a dare the outspoken Trump has not yet responded to, but has previously said he will not release them. Even though Buffett criticized Trump's handling of money, back in April, he didn't seem to think the economy would suffer under a Trump presidency.
BUFFETT: I will predict that either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton becomes president or one of them is likely to be, very likely to be, I think Berkshire will continue to do fine.
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BRYNN: Erin, Trump has been pretty on the point when it comes to Buffett. We don't see his usual activity on Twitter. We didn't see any comments from him at the Virginia rally today or any comments from him yesterday.
And, Erin, as you summed up, I don't really care what Warren Buffett thinks because he is a Hillary Clinton supporter.
BURNETT: All right. Brynn, thank you very much.
Corey, let me go straight to you. Buffett was right. We went and check them. You saw Brynn's reporting. The casino stock lost 90 percent of its value in '89. If you had done a random investment in the stock market, the Buffett's money, you would have more than doubled your money. So, the monkey would have more than doubled your money. If you had it in Donald Trump's particular casino stock, you lost almost all of it any over that time he paid himself at least $40 million.
How is that not be damning scenario?
COREY LEWANDOWSKI, FORMER TRUMP CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Let's look at Bill Gates, right, Microsoft stock. If he would have left his money in Microsoft and not taken it out of the market, you know what would have happened right now? Bill Gates would be worth probably $200 billion worth than what he is today.
So, is this a condemnation of Bill Gates as well, that he's taken his money out of the stock market, or that if he would have left it there, stocks would have done better? Of course not.
What it says is Donald Trump is a businessman, as a private investor, made an investment and received compensation for that investment and left Atlantic City at a time when the market was oversaturated and did very well. That's what a businessman does for himself and for his business and for his family.
As it relates to Warren Buffett, I think he should release his taxes, I challenge him to do so, there's nothing that prevents him from doing that. This is the same individual who said that his secretary pays more money in taxes than he does. If that's a case --
BURNETT: That's a percent.
LEWANDOWSKI: Well, then, he should either pay her more money or he should take less money of his own, but why hasn't he released his taxes if he's willing to do so.
BURNETT: OK, but here's the thing. His company lost money during that time. So he wasn't running -- to the Warren Buffett point, isn't that he paid himself while the company was losing money.
LEWANDOWSKI: Let's look at tech companies across the board that lost money during the stock market last -- let's look at Coca-Cola. Let's look any -- let's look at General Motors. Let's look at Ford Motor Company that needed a bailout from the federal government to withstand and keep people employed.
BURNETT: You buy it over here?
BASIL SMIKLE, EXEC. CHAIRMAN, NEW YORK STATE DEMOCRATIC PARTY: I don't buy it because if you 2010 when Republicans are talking about job creators and job growth. Republicans used to say that a lot in those days.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot still do.
SMIKLE: But they're not applying that to Donald Trump. While he will call himself a job creator, you know, to go back to what you made, yes, he's created businesses and yes, he's pulled his money out and he's left people's lives in the wing, as well, and that's something that the Democrats and Hillary Clinton are going to be continuing to talk about. The fact that for him it's dollars and cents, but there are people's lives behind those dollars and cents.
LEWANDOWSKI: The difference is in the private sector, Donald Trump has tried and created tens of thousands of jobs and put kids through college and health care. The only jobs that Clinton family has put straight in the private sector, zero.
They've lived off of the government dole for their entire career other than the Clinton Foundation which is money coming in from foreign countries. They've never created jobs. So what makes us think --
SMIKLE: What they've done is put people through high school and jobs, number one.
LEWANDOWSKI: Where?
SMIKLE: I will tell you. I would start with this, 1994, the Empowerment Zone Program and Charlie Rangel with --
LEWANDOWSKI: The government doesn't create jobs.
SMIKLE: The government actually does create jobs. The government actually can do that through careful investing, community reinvestment act, there are a lot of things that government does to grow jobs in communities, particularly distressed communities and going back to early in the Clinton administration. They were doing that.
[19:35:01] But what Donald Trump is trying to say is that, well, he's built all these buildings and these created all of these jobs, what he's done is he's played the system, he's gamed the system and a lot of people particularly in Atlantic City where Hillary Clinton was some weeks ago where people have lost their jobs and lost their -- their homes and businesses.
BURNETT: The message here is Warren Buffett, OK? He's a household name. He's one of the richest men in the world, I believe the third at this point.
Alex, the thing is, is that Donald Trump when he responded to him, he's always a Hillary Clinton supporter. But that isn't what we would normally hear from Donald Trump. He would come out and say actually Warren Buffett has not always cracked up, he would come after him more aggressively. He did not do that.
Why is that? Is this the one person Donald Trump is actually afraid of?
ALEX BURNS, NATIONAL POLITICAL REPORTER, NEW YORK TIMES: I don't want to assume -- I don't want to put Trump on the couch to assume that he's afraid of anybody in particular. But in general, he has tended up to blow up big fights with people who are unsympathetic to his base of supporters and who are less well known to average Americans and to some he can caricature or correctly describe as a Washington insider of some kind.
Warren Buffett is not that guy. He may be the only American businessman who is better known than Donald Trump before Trump started running for president and look, this whole conversation that we're having right now about Trump's business performance over time and how many jobs he's created, talking about that is a defensive argument. And so, for him to escalate against Warren Buffett, who is a revered and popularly known figure as a business leader, that would drag Trump into a days-long fight on a fight that he doesn't want to litigate.
BURNETT: You know, Doug, he also today, he said, he thought the market was a bad place to be, he would take his money out of the market. Again, I ask the question, look, it's no one's job to be a cheerleader, but it is a proxy for the power and prominence for the United States. I know people who say, like Mark Cuban, he said if Trump's elected it would go 20 percent. That's what he said on this show. But should Trump be saying the market's going go down, is that --
DOUG HEYE, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST: No. He shouldn't be and this is not a role where you're supposed to be financial analyst or predictor. And what we see is time and time again, these kinds of statements coming from Trump that cause problems either for markets or for his own campaign and who do they benefit? They largely benefit the Democrats and Hillary Clinton has not been talked really about her awful statements that she made this weekend, when we go back to the judge in the case over Trump University.
We didn't have to talk about the awful job numbers and we didn't have to talk about the I.G. report against Clinton. Terrible GDP report come out Friday, we're not talking about that because Donald Trump and he's masterful of this, changes the conversation to whatever he wants it to be about.
BURNETT: All right. Thanks to all.
And next, why wasn't Donald Trump drafted during the Vietnam War? We'll tell you the reasons he never served.
And breaking news tonight, another case of Zika in Florida, and this one possibly very different from the others. The Florida Governor Rick Scott is OUTFRONT tonight.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) [19:41:39] BURNETT: Tonight, Donald Trump's most loyal political backer, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, is publicly taking issue with the Republican nominee. Christie who is a finalist to be Trump's V.P. saying Trump is wrong to criticize the parents of a fallen Muslim American war hero.
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GOV. CHRIS CHRISTIE (R-NJ), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And for Mr. and Mrs. Khan, the pain of losing their son while defending our country is unfathomable, and I think it gives them the right to say whatever they want. It's just inappropriate for us in this context to be criticizing them, and I'm not going to participate in that.
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BURNETT: The criticism coming as Trump says today that despite five draft deferments, he now wishes he had served in the military.
Suzanne Malveaux is OUTFRONT.
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TRUMP: Thank you.
SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A rare admission from Donald Trump, expressing regret about not serving in the military.
TRUMP: It's something I've always missed and I built and helped built the Vietnam Memorial in downtown Manhattan. To me, that was a very important thing to do, but I've regretted not serving in many ways.
MALVEAUX: Trump has been under fire for days after criticizing the family of a fallen soldier who challenged Trump at the Democratic National Convention.
KHIZR KHAN, FATHER OF U.S. SOLDIER KILLED IN IRAQ: You have sacrificed nothing and no one!
TRUMP: I think I've made a lot of sacrifices. I work very, very hard. I've created thousands and thousands of jobs, tens of thousand of jobs.
MALVEAUX: Trump's reaction spurring more angry and scrutiny of his own military record.
TRUMP: I was fortunate to really not have to go. This was during the Vietnam period and we were in a very, very highly contested and unpopular war.
MALVEAUX: June 1964, Trump registered for the draft after he graduated from the New York Military Academy. He received four education deferments while he was at Fordham and Wharton. Then, September 1968, Trump started his real estate career, got a medical deferment because of a bone spur in his foot. TRUMP: I had deferments because of college like a lot of people did, numerous deferments, because of college, and I had a foot thing, and I get the deferment for that.
MALVEAUX: Despite the fact that Trump had been active in various sports, including basketball and baseball.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The battles have no fixed front. Trump often explains it was his high draft number, 356, which spared him from going to Vietnam.
TRUMP: That was an amazing period of time in my life. I was sitting at college, watching. I was going to the Wharton School of Finance, and I was watching as they did the draft numbers and I got a very, very high number and those numbers never got up to it.
MALVEAUX: But as it turns out, the draft lottery was never a factor when Trump was in college.
According to selective service records obtained by CNN, Trump had been out of school for 18 months before the lottery even began.
The Republican candidate prides itself on being a champion for veterans.
TRUMP: And we're going to take care of the vets, believe me. We're going to take care of their medical and we're going to take care of them.
MALVEAUX: Today, a veteran gave Trump his Purple Heart.
TRUMP: I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.
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MALVEAUX: Well, that comment is spurring even more anger tonight from some veterans groups who see it as highly sensitive as making light of an award that is given to those injured in service to those country.
[19:45:01] One veteran leader noting people who receive this award have lost an eye or an arm or worse, saying, quote, "no one wants a Purple Heart" -- Erin.
BURNETT: Poignant there.
All right. Thank you very much, Suzanne.
And next, the breaking news, another case of Zika in Florida and this one not in that zone. Florida's Governor Rick Scott is my guest next.
And Jeanne Moos with a word for Donald Trump, silverware and chicken not the way to go.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BURNETT: Breaking news tonight: a new case of non-travel related Zika in Florida. Officials saying there are a total of 15 such cases and this newest case and this is what's crucial tonight is outside of the area where officials said active transmission has taken place.
Florida Governor Rick Scott joins me now from Tallahassee.
And, Governor, thank you so much for being with me.
According from the statement we have from the Florida Department of Health, this newest case is outside of the area where active transmission is taking place. Obviously, that's a pretty frightening headline, does it mean Zika is spreading?
GOV. RICK SCOTT (R), FLORIDA: Erin, right now, what we believe is it's still confined to that one-mile radius just north of downtown Miami. We have 15 cases.
[19:50:00] We've been getting prepared since February. We have very good mosquito control. We've tested over 20,000 mosquitoes in the state and not one of them has Zika.
So, we have very good department of health of state and county. The CDC is down with their emergency response team. We are offering everyone, all pregnant women in the impacted area a free test for Zika and we'll be rolling that out statewide for anyone that's pregnant at any one of our county health departments for free. We will be working on doing that. So we're going to make sure everybody is safe.
BURNETT: So, let me just ask you, though, if there is a case, the Florida department is saying there is outside the zone, what does that mean if it doesn't mean that it's spreading, right? You have this zone and this unprecedented move that is now with the travel ban and now there is a case outside it.
SCOTT: So, what we're saying with this one-mile radius is that's where we believe there is a chance of getting Zika right now, the likelihood that there is still active transmission. What we're saying with the other cases we don't believe around them, we are testing people. We tested over 2,300 people around the state and we don't believe in any other areas, there's the likely local transmission at this point.
And we are hopeful that through all of our mosquito control efforts, that will be the case and it will be that one area. We've been very good with other viruses with chikungunya and dengue fever. We've stopped local transmission of those.
BURNETT: Yes.
SCOTT: So, we believe there's no reason that it won't happen with this.
BURNETT: So, what are you doing about spraying? Obviously, some mosquitoes are immune to the pesticides and whatever it might that that can kill the Zika mosquitoes. Some of the mosquitoes are immune. What are you doing about that, or the reality is that we have to accept the fact that there will be more Zika in the United States?
SCOTT: We are doing a variety of spraying. We're bringing in additional experts. We've always figured out how to handle this in the past, we'll figure it out in this case. But we have individuals from the CDC. We've got individuals from other areas and we are doing backpack spraying and other spraying.
The other thing we're doing is doing what every citizen should do, get rid of standing water, wear repellent. We've given people protection and equipment to protect themselves, wear long sleeves, wear pants and all these things.
Look, we've had 60, probably 65 million tourists this year. We've had 20 million cases, so we have one square mile and we're doing everything we can to make sure everybody is safe.
BURNETT: So I also want to ask you also, Governor, while you're with me, a very important question about the election. For those who don't know, you were a very early Donald Trump supporter. You are now more than just a supporter and you are chairman of perhaps the main Trump super PAC.
You also, though, governor, are a veteran. You served in the Navy, and I know it's an important part of who you are. Are you OK with Donald Trump's comments to the Gold Star parents, the Khan family?
SCOTT: Well, I was proud to have the opportunity to serve in the Navy. I'm very proud of my father who did the combat jumps in the Second World War I've done a lot of things with the Gold Star families in our state. I'm very appreciative of everybody that served, and my heart goes out to anybody that's lost a loved one.
I know that Donald Trump cares about our military, and he will do whatever he can build it up. But let's all remember, this is an election about two people. It's going to be about jobs. We have an add-up in rebuild America now that Hillary wants taken now. You can look at rebuildingAmericanow.com because it talks about her saying in her own words, she's not going to stop the outsourcing of jobs in this country. And so, this election is going to be about jobs.
BURNETT: The bottom line is you're not changing in any way your support or endorsement of Donald Trump?
SCOTT: No. Look, there are only two choices, Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. She's a career politician, has never created a private sector job, never supported our military, never supported local law enforcement, and had her chance to destroy ISIS and she failed.
BURNETT: All right. Governor Rick Scott, thank you very much, and I appreciate you being with us tonight.
SCOTT: Nice seeing you, Erin.
BURNETT: And OUTFRONT next, Jeanne Moos on Donald Trump's problem with fast food.
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[19:57:44] BURNETT: We know Donald Trump eats French fries with his hands, but what about a Big Mac or fried chicken? Here's Jeanne Moos.
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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Every so often, we are treated to Donald Trump food tweets. Remember the I love Hispanics taco bowl?
And then there was the McDonald's aboard his private plane Instagram. Followed now by a KFC tweet and what may or may not be the same seat, but it's the knife and fork that have folks dropping their cutlery and manhandling the chicken.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Who would do it with a knife and a fork?
MOOS: Donald Trump.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump does? Oh, my God, you've got to eat it with your fingers.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my hand, yeah. I'm a man.
MOOS: How would you eat it?
UNIDENTIFIED BOY: With hands.
MOOS: We all know that Donald is a neat nick and a germ freak. So why should critics stick a knife in him for using a knife and fork on KFC?
Maybe because this is Trump's second cutlery faux pas. The first was when he took Sarah Palin out for pizza?
JON STEWART, COMEDIAN: Are you eating it with a fork? A (EXPLETIVE DELETED) fork?
MOOS: OK, maybe it's not as weird as eating a Snickers with a knife and fork as characters on Seinfeld did.
The practice spread.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look, she's cutting up an almond joy.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I saw someone on the street eating M&M's with a spoon.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What is wrong with all you people?
MOOS: Why stop at eating KFC with a knife and fork?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Really, you should just inject it directly into your artery with a needle like that.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Just use your hands and use the grease off of your fingers and keep the comb-over in the face. MOOS: There are no do-overs when candidates eat in public.
HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I learned early on not to eat in front of all of you.
MOOS: After Hillary resisted eating cheesecakes, Stephen Colbert taught her how to do it.
STEPHEN COLBERT, COMEDIAN: We'll take off just a little bit off the top right here and then eat as much as you want.
MOOS: Colbert used both a fork and his hands, straddling the issue like some cheesy politician.
Jeanne Moos, CNN.
STEWART: What a (EXPLETIVE DELETED)
MOOS: New York.
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BURNETT: I'm very jealous for Jeanne for getting to eat that KFC. Gets your stomach growling, doesn't it?
Thanks for joining us. Don't forget. You can watch OUTFRONT anytime, anywhere on CNN Go.
"AC360" with Anderson begins right now.
(Byline: Erin Burnett, Dana Bash, Jason Carroll, Jamie Gangel, Brianna Keilar, Brynn Gingras, Corey Lewandowski, Alex Burns, Suzanne Malveaux, Jeanne Moos)
(Guest: Corey Lewandowski, Basil Smikle, Doug Heye, Rick Scott, Alex Burns)
(High: OUTFRONT tonight, the breaking news, Trump dumps the GOP in an unprecedented development refusing to support House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senator John McCain in their re-election bids. This is a remarkable break with leading Republicans coming as the same day as the first Republican congressman says, he will vote for Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump. This comes as President Obama challenges Republicans to withdraw their endorsements of Trump. The President charging that Trump is, quote, "unfit to be president." The first Republican member of Congress breaking ranks to support Clinton New York Congressman Richard Hannah's endorsement coming as Clinton is now cashing in on her convention momentum. The campaign announcing it raised $63 million last month. Tonight, Donald Trump not taking the bait and refusing a challenge from one of the world's richest people, Warren Buffett. Buffett, the Clinton supporter told Trump, if you release your tax returns I'll release mine, too. Donald Trump's most loyal political backer, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, is publicly taking issue with the Republican nominee, saying Trump is wrong to criticize the parents of a fallen Muslim American war hero. A new case of non-travel related Zika in Florida, and officials saying there are a total of 15 such cases and this newest case is outside of the area where officials said active transmission has taken place.)
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