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LOU DOBBS, FBN HOST: Good evening, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs.

The three amigos today taking on Donald Trump, the leaders of the United States, Canada and Mexico meeting at a North American summit in Ottawa, pushing free trade -- not really free trade, but very costly trade, but they call it free trade -- a day after Donald Trump blasted free trade agreements such as NAFTA costing millions, he said, of American jobs, President Obama, Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau and Mexican president Enrique Pena Nieto arguing that the United States should embrace global -- globalism, not isolationism, President Obama even talking about pushing a new world order, one that is in complete opposition to trade policies pushed by Donald Trump, who wants to put American workers first.


BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We can't disengage. We've got to engage more. We're going to keep on pushing hard to shape a...


DOBBS: Well, we obviously had some -- some technical problems with that. Our machinery did not want to even repeat what he had said. That was not the only dig at Trump, who the president referred to as anti-immigration demagogue.

As for Trump, he was in Bangor, Maine, this afternoon. He said our leaders have failed us negotiating simply horrible trade deals.


DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: The United States Chamber of Commerce is upset with me, and they usually go the Republican way. They're upset with my statements on trade. And I said, Let me ask you a question. And I tweeted, Why? Why would you be upset? I'm all for free trade. The problem with free trade is you need smart people making deals. We don't have good deals. And free trade is killing us.


DOBBS: And Trump last night also took issue with failed leadership in the war against terrorists, hours after suicide bombers struck a Turkish airport, the Islamic State killing 41 people in the attack, more than 200 people wounded. Trump said he was determined to win the war against radical Islamist terrorists.


TRUMP: Can you imagine them sitting around the table or wherever they're eating their dinner, talking about the Americans don't do waterboarding and yet we chop off heads. They probably think we're weak, we're stupid, we don't know what we're doing, we have no leadership. You know, you have to fight fire with fire.


DOBBS: Trump's comments in sharp contrast with those of the Obama administration's secretary of state, John Kerry, who today said the Turkish attacks were a sign of the Islamic State's desperation.


JOHN KERRY, SECRETARY OF STATE: Yes, you can bomb an airport. You can blow yourself up. That's the tragedy. And if you're desperate and if you know you're losing, and you know you want to give up your life, then obviously, you can do some harm.


DOBBS: John Kerry, apparently interested in the psychology of terrorists.

Among my guests tonight, the Trump Organization's executive vice president, Eric Trump, with the latest on the Trump campaign, also former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne. He served in the West Wing during the Clinton administration and has written an explosive new book, now a number one seller, depicting the Clintons suffering a crisis of character.

We're also learning tonight Hillary's long-time aide, Huma Abedin, was frustrated with her boss's private e-mail server and doing business -- official basically on it. She said it interfered with Clinton's ability to do her job. That's according to testimony that Abedin gave to the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch. We'll have much more for you on that here tonight.

The top story, the three amigos summit, President Obama in Ottawa today meeting with leaders of Canada and Mexico, our neighbors to the north and south today, hailing the benefits of trade with the United States.


ENRIQUE PENA NIETO, MEXICAN PRESIDENT (through translator): The North American leaders summit bears witness that isolated national efforts are insufficient if we want favorable results.

JUSTIN TRUDEAU, CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER: It's gratifying that once again, we are able to come together as leaders of three truly great nations to honor that enduring friendship and to once again deliver real results.


DOBBS: Real results -- those results benefit Mexico and Canada, the United States less so. The United States has an annual trade deficit of $73 billion dollars with the two countries, the largest, of course, $58 billion last year with Mexico. No mention of that today by President Obama, or the thousands of factories and an estimated million jobs that have moved to Mexico since NAFTA was signed by President Bill Clinton in 1993. Donald Trump, of course, is reminding us of that fact almost daily.

A new FOX News poll tonight has Clinton leading Trump by 6 points. There are some encouraging numbers within those polls for Trump with key voting blocks, showing Trump leading among white evangelical Christians 66 to 18 percent now, Trump in front with men, 46 to 36 percent, independents, Trump leading Clinton 39 to 31 percent, Clinton in front with women, 51 to 32 percent.

Joining us tonight, former Reagan White House political director, Republican strategist, Great America PAC strategist and FOX News contributor Ed Rollins. Ed, good to have you here.


DOBBS: This is again a disappointing report for Clinton (sic) on the face of it, but those numbers internally look encouraging.

ROLLINS: I would be very encouraged if I were the Trump people. Obviously, they're very close. They're within the margin -- you know, the critical thing here is for the last three or four weeks, they've not been able to be on the attack, as the Clinton campaign has spent an enormous amount of money attacking him every single day, and obviously, not have a great result.

The key to this election is going to be Republicans are going to vote for Republicans...

DOBBS: Those PACs, the attack ads, not having great impact on Trump.

ROLLINS: No, obviously. And at the end of the day here, who's going to decide this election, as they have the last several, will be the independents, and he's leading in every poll among the independent voters. And that's a key.

Republicans will come home. Most of the Republicans are home already, in spite of the establishment types that aren't there. Most of the Democrats will go the other way, too.

But the parity, very closeness and the plurality of voters in America today are independents. And if he holds those and expands those, he'll be very strong.

DOBBS: What is the likelihood that he can make significant inroads with women and gain their support and narrow that tremendous margin that -- an advantage that Mrs. Clinton has over him now?

ROLLINS: The critical thing here is two fronts. One is the economic front, where clearly, people want jobs and people think that he's the guy that can bring new jobs. Secondly, on the terrorism front, there's a lot of Americans today, after having three major events in the last two weeks, three weeks are very concerned about that.

Hillary is offering the same old stuff -- We have to get together with the Muslim states and sit down and talk this thing over and over again and again and again.

Donald Trump says, I'm going to stop them. I'm going to do whatever it is to stop them. And I think that's what people want to hear. So I think a lot of women that are very concerned will start moving to him. They may not say it right today in a poll, but we have a long ways to go.

And as we were talking earlier in the show, I worked for Ronald Reagan in 1980. We were substantially behind Jimmy Carter at this point in time, went on to win a landslide in a few months.

DOBBS: There was -- to dredge up a little -- a little history, there was the little matter of the killer rabbit that President Carter forestalled with a new paddle, as I recall.

ROLLINS: The killer rabbit was sort of the epitome of the Carter lack of leadership. So it was -- and you can't be afraid of rabbits, you can't be afraid of terrorists. You have to basically show great strength, and that's what this country wants (INAUDIBLE)

DOBBS: I want to get your reaction to Attorney General Loretta Lynch and President Bill Clinton meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, actually boarding one of the private aircraft of the two, and talking -- a private meeting between the two. How inappropriate that appears to be and what the implications are.

ROLLINS: Well, certainly appears to be very inappropriate this particular time, particularly when the Benghazi report just came through, and particularly where she is going to be have an FBI report coming to her every soon. It's going to basically have a big impact on his wife. And to basically say, All we did was sit down and have a cup of coffee and talk about our grandkids is not believable.

DOBBS: And -- and what in the world is -- you know, is this country to do, waiting now almost a year on the FBI to complete an investigation that it began in earnest with 100 -- reportedly 140-some-odd agents involved? What are we supposed to do with the presumptive nominee of Democratic Party under federal investigation, and most -- most saying that on the face of it all, she has violated regulations that were put in place, therefore she -- by law, and therefore she is breaking laws?

ROLLINS: The FBI director and the Justice Department people who are going to question her apparently are ready. They've asked for the sessions. She obviously claims she's busy, but you know, this is a very important thing to the country, and the quicker we get it done, the better we'll be and the better she will be if she doesn't get indicted.

DOBBS: Yes, she's very fortunate in so many ways. And I'm not the -- the director of the FBI, telling me that you're busy probably wouldn't be the answer that would be most -- I'd be most sympathetic with. I don't know about James Comey, but...

ROLLINS: Well, they're certainly prepared to question her and they certainly know what the facts and figures of this whole issue are, so we'll see.

DOBBS: All right, Ed Rollins, always great to have you here.

ROLLINS: Thank you. My pleasure.

DOBBS: Thank you.

We're coming right back. There is much more ahead. Among our guests here tonight, Eric Trump. He'll be telling us what the campaign thinks of these new polls and what they're planning.

And Obama's rant in Canada about Donald Trump and populism -- you'll want to hear what he has to say about that and much, much more.

Stay with us.

A former White House Secret Service officer exposes Hillary Clinton's character.


GARY BYRNE, "CRISIS OF CHARACTER" AUTHOR: Mrs. Clinton is not a leader. She's a very, very angry person all the time. She's a dictator.


DOBBS: Gary Byrne wrote the number one best-selling Clinton tell-all, "Crisis of Character." He joins me next.

And this wild police chase in Texas ending in a remarkable fashion. We'll show you what unfolds with the video here next. You don't want to miss it.

A lot more straight ahead. Stay with us. We'll be right back.


DOBBS: Attorney general Loretta Lynch tonight under fire after she met with President Bill Clinton in Phoenix earlier this week. This comes as Hillary Clinton is under investigation by Department of Justice over her e- mail scandal, yet the attorney general of United States claims their meeting was simply a crossing of paths.


LORETTA LYNCH, ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES: I did see President Clinton at the Phoenix airport as I was leaving. He spoke to myself and my husband on the plane. But there was no discussion of any matter pending before the department or any matter pending before any other body. There was no discussion of Benghazi, no discussion of the State Department e- mails, by way of example.


DOBBS: You wonder if, as a prosecutor, she would have bought what she has just said. It'd be an interesting -- an interesting answer.

My next guest has written the explosive new best-seller on his experience with the Clintons in the White House. Joining us tonight, former Secret Service officer Gary Byrne, the author of the new book, "Crisis of Character: A White House Secret Service Officer Discloses His Firsthand Experience with Hillary, Bill and How they Operate." It is the number one book on Amazon.

And great to have you with us, Gary. Congratulation on the book. And -- and I to want turn first to the Clintons. How have, you have testified in the Starr investigation. You testified, you were subpoenaed in the Lewinsky scandal. Why now do you -- are you forthcoming?

GARY BYRNE, "CRISIS OF CHARACTER" AUTHOR: Well, I was still a government employee. And I actually stayed with the Secret Service until 2003. And then after we were attacked in 9/11, I transferred over to the Federal Air Marshals Service.

And a few years ago, I decided that it was time to -- to -- about a year- and-a-half ago, to write my life story. And this is what I've done. I wrote my story about my life, and -- and it's just unusual that it intersections with -- you know, with the Clintons, but I spent 12 years at the White House, while they were there for 8. And this is my life story and how it intertwined with them.

DOBBS: You write of Hillary Clinton -- you describe her as explosive, volcanic in her anger, and -- and simply mercurial day in day out. How did all of the Secret Service officers and agents deal with such a personality?

BYRNE: Well, you just have to -- you have to show up to work every day and put your game face on and do your job. And that's what we did. That's what I did. That's what the agents who -- who experienced the same things that I did, and that's what the rest of the uniform division did. They put their game faces on and they did their jobs. And it's not always easy, but that's what you do.

DOBBS: And you describe the -- the anger, the -- the actual violence between the two. How frequent was it, and how -- and how bad was it? And how did you contain it?

BYRNE: Well, the Secret Service really doesn't contain it. You know, it happens -- when a couple gets in an argument, they get in an argument. It's a little odd when you work in the White House as a uniform division officer, and you know, the first lady becomes so angry because of an incident that she comes over to the Oval Office and berates president so loud that myself and the agent actually had to move back away from the Oval Office and close the outer doors to try to keep the staff from overhearing -- more of the staff from overhearing what happened.

And I detail many of these stories, Lou, in my book, "Crisis of Character."

DOBBS: Well, "Crisis of Character," as I said, the number one best-seller already. The Lewinsky affair -- as I said, you were subpoenaed in that. How did -- how tough was it to respond to the investigation and yet honor your commitment to the privacy of the president and the first lady?

BYRNE: It was incredibly hard. There were many groups of lawyers. You have the Secret Service lawyers. You had the Justice Department lawyers that were supposedly representing us. But there was no attorney-client privilege because we're all government employees. Then you have the Justice Department that was basically the Starr investigation that was investigating us and trying to prosecute the president.

And every day, the rules changed, Lou. It was incredible. When I tried to explain it to a friend of mine who's a very seasoned lawyer, he just rolled his eyes. He couldn't believe that the Secret Service and the Clinton administration let people go through what we had to go through.

DOBBS: And -- and I -- and I have to ask, with all of the affairs that Bill Clinton apparently was involved in, allegedly, you -- you talk about women approaching the White House and having a cross check against a list. What are we to infer from all of that?

BYRNE: Well, Lou, the way it was explained to me -- I think you are referring to in the book where I talk about the jogging list.


BYRNE: So in the beginning of the Lewinsky affair, Lou, I was kind of in denial, like I didn't believe it was happening, and agents kept telling me, Gary, you don't know what happens on the road. You don't know what happens on the road because I'm not on all the -- I didn't go on all the travel trips.

And then one day, one of the agents was describing to me how, when, in the beginning, when the president would go outside to jog, when he first got there, that people would show up, usually women, to go jogging with him. And they started making a list because they had to check out their backgrounds, who they were. And the president would say he wanted to jog with them, and they -- they certainly inferred to me that that list was used later on for him to meet these women.

DOBBS: And -- and with all of this going on, and all of the contretemps that you experienced, the ugliness, you have a very low opinion of Hillary Clinton and her capacity to lead. Which -- which of the two did you find yourself sympathizing with most during your time with them?

BYRNE: Well, at first, I felt -- I had some sympathy for the first lady. There was a lot of pressure on her. And you know, all the stories -- when they first got there, all the stories that we heard come up from Arkansas, you know, I tried to act -- you know, I didn't believe them at first. But as time went on and I saw the president's behavior, and the first lady's behavior, Mrs. Clinton's behavior, I came to the conclusion that it really was true.

And you know, the things I saw, the first lady, the way she acted and treated people, her staff, the Secret Service, she definitely to me is not somebody who's a leader. And think about it. She's -- she's very close to becoming president of the United States, and she's under investigation by the FBI. It's like we've -- we've moved into some separate world, and it's incredible. I just don't understand how people can support her.

DOBBS: Gary Byrne, we thank you for being with us, author of...

BYRNE: Thank you.

DOBBS: ... the "Crisis of Character." We recommend it to you highly, and -- and it's already number one. Congratulations again, Gary. We appreciate it.

BYRNE: Thank you, sir. Have a good night.

DOBBS: You, too.

Breaking news now. The Senate has just begun their final vote on a Puerto Rico bail-out bill. There are now enough votes for the bill to pass. It will go to President Obama just two days before the island is expected to default on a key debt payment. The White House says the president will, of course, sign the measure. It's essentially a bail-out for Puerto Rico and its $70 billion of debt.

Be sure to vote in tonight's poll. Our question is, Secretary of State John Kerry says that the attacks in Turkey are a sign the Islamic State is desperate. Donald Trump says the attacks are a sign of the Obama administration's weak leadership. Who do you believe is correct?

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And now, this is where I get to say roll the video. There it is. Watch the dramatic moment as a Houston police officer, who was on a helicopter, tackles a robbery suspect, takes him to the ground. Incredible! This is the pilot, and he can move as fast on ground almost as in the air.

It started out as a car chase and turned into a chase on foot. The burglar continued to run despite being hit by a police SUV, as you saw there. The sergeant was forced to wrestle and subdue the suspect until back-up could arrive, the suspect now in custody.

Up next, Donald Trump firing back at the Chamber of Commerce. He says the lobbying group needs to prioritize in favor of the American worker.


DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: I want to bring jobs back to our country. I want to bring money back to our country. I want to get rid of the deficit. I want to start paying off debt. And they're against it! They're saying, How could Donald do that and how could he jeopardize free trade?


DOBBS: That's the subject of my commentary next.

And a bit later, Eric Trump joins us. He talks tonight about some of the fund-raising issues and -- and these polls that are remaining ever closer.

Stay with us. We'll be right back.


DOBBS: A few thoughts now on a looming trade war not between nations, but between the Chamber of Commerce and Donald Trump, the U.S. Chamber going after Trump because he has called for the American withdrawal from the TPP and declared he would renegotiate NAFTA.


DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESUMPTIVE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: The Trans Pacific Partnership is another disaster, done and pushed by special interests who want to rape our country, just a continuing rape of our country!


DOBBS: Trump also taking the fight to Twitter today, as he often does. He tweeted these comments.

Quote -- tweet number one, quote, "The U.S. Chamber must fight harder for the American worker. China and many others are taking advantage of the United States with our terrible trade pacts."

Tweet number two. Quote, "Why would the U.S. Chamber be upset by the fact I want to negotiate better and stronger trade deals, or that I want penalties for cheaters?"

The Chamber of Commerce offered this -- well, I would consider it somewhat tepid response, tweeting, quote, "Helping American workers means opening markets to American business, which will grow the U.S. economy and create U.S. jobs."

The problem there, folks, is that the Chamber spent more time opening our economy to those foreign labor markets and production markets. China comes to mind.

Well, Trump's remarks are on point, and his remarks are accurate. The Chamber has an absolutely disastrous record on the issues that Trump raises -- open borders, illegal immigration, so-called free trade, trade that is free -- absolutely accurate -- free for corporate America but disastrously costly for our working men and women and their families, our middle class.

The Chamber of Commerce is the most powerful business lobby and understandably it lobbies hard for the multinational corporations it represents. Multinationals that have shipped production and plants to countries that have lower environmental standards, lower wages, lower cost of production. They've exported millions of good paying, middle-class jobs to cheap labor markets, and they decline to bring back to America more than $2 trillion of profits that, if invested here, would create millions of new jobs. They ship the jobs. They ship their plants, and they keep their profits overseas.

More than four decades of consecutive trade deficits and since NAFTA was enacted, our trade deficit has grown five-fold, while the number of manufacturing jobs has fallen by more than 25 percent.

The Chamber of Commerce has a terrific opportunity right now, to stand up for the national interest, to stand up for America, to stand up for their home market and to acknowledge our national interest is well above any special interest, even that, of business.

What do you think the odds are that we'll ever hear that acknowledgement from the Chamber? Well maybe, just maybe, Donald Trump prove persuasive if not as a Republican nominee, perhaps, as president of the United States. That might be very helpful.

Our quotation of the evening. This one from Winston Churchill, who said, "Some people regard private enterprise as a predatory tiger, to be shot, others look on it as a cow they can milk, not enough people see it as a healthy horse pulling a sturdy wagon."

Donald Trump promising to create jobs and strengthen the economy for everybody.


DONALD TRUMP, (R) PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE, BUSINESSMAN: If she really wanted to bring those jobs back, she's so over-rated, she couldn't do it anyway. Eric Trump joins us next. He'll have the latest on the campaign and these latest polls and roll video.



DOBBS: This motorcyclist in for a scary ride he won't soon forget. We'll show you the video so strap yourself in, here we go. Much more straight ahead. We'll be right back with that and much, much more.



DOBBS: A new, FOX News national poll tonight showing Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump by six points, a Quinnipiac Poll today indicating the race too close to call. Clinton narrowly edging Trump by two points; that's within the margin of error.

Joining me now to discuss these latest polls, all the latest from the campaign, the son of the presumptive Republican presidential nominee. Eric, the executive vice-president of developmental and acquisitions for the Trump organization. Eric, great to have you.


DOBBS: How does it feel, you've got two points, you've got six points in tonight's FOX News poll, Your reaction?

TRUMP: Well, I can tell you, she's not happy, right? I mean, in Quinnipiac, we were much further down and we're coming back, you know, by leaps and bounds, and I think we're going to pass her. You look at any amount of money that we're raising online. It's staggering. I mean, she's doing hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of thousands of ads all over the place in all the swing states we haven't even started.

With the amount of money that we're raising is absolutely staggering and even as I walk down here tonight, I mean, the amount of people that grab me on the street, "Tell your father ..., "I mean, there's just enthusiasm. I mean, there's tremendous enthusiasm. If you see the numbers, also, with the independents, you know, many more independents are coming over to the Republican Party than going over the Democratic Party.

That has got to be of great comfort to the Trump campaign, to see independents breaking as they are right now in nearly every poll.


DOBBS: Because independents are where these contests are won.

TRUMP: But also, if you look at primary, I mean, the democratic vote in the primary was down by 40 percent, and the Republican vote in the primary was up by 60 percent. I mean, that's also got to tell you something. There's a lot of enthusiasm on the Republican side, and there's very little enthusiasm on the Democratic side, and, also the Republican Party has raised far more money than the Democratic Party, you know, thus far this year.