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[15:01:43] HALA GORANI, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Hello. We have that and a lot more coming up this hour. I`m Hala Gorani. We are live at CNN London, and this is THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.
Donald Trump has fired off another barrage of attacks in his campaign for the U.S. presidency. However, this time he`s aimed them squarely across the Atlantic. Among his targets, the newly elected muslin mayor of London where we`re broadcasting from this evening.
Trump is challenging Sadiq Khan to an IQ test after Kham slammed the Republican candidate`s views on Islam as ignorant. Listen to how Trump fired back.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Well, when he won I wished him well. Now I don`t care about him. I mean, it doesn`t make any difference to me about him. Let`s see how he does. Let`s see if he`s a good mayor.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you offended by what he says?
TRUMP: Yes, I am because he doesn`t know me, never met me. He doesn`t know what I`m all about. I think very rude statements and frankly, tell him I will remember those statements, very nasty statements.
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GORANI: Well, Sadiq Khan rejected the idea of taking an IQ test. He accused Trump of playing the politics of fear and said his remarks on Islam play, quote, "straight into extremist hands and make both of our countries less safe."
Khan is not Trump`s only British target. Here`s what the Republican candidate had to say about the prime minister of this country, David Cameron.
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TRUMP: It looks like we won`t have a very good relationship. Who knows? I hope to have a good relationship with him, but it sounds like he`s not willing to address the problem either.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Would you like David Cameron to withdraw the particular comments that you`re stupid and divisive and wrong.
TRUMP: Number one, I`m not stupid, I can tell that you right now. Just the opposite. Number two, in terms of divisive, I don`t think I`m a divisive person. I`m a unifier, unlike our president now. I`m a unifier.
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GORANI: Well, despite his concerns about Cameron, Trump says he will not treat the U.K. differently if it votes to leave the European Union. Prime Minister David Cameron may be changing his tune slightly.
He now says he would consider a phone call with the Republican candidate. That`s not exactly a declaration of love, but it`s something, and saying that he`s committed to maintaining the special relationship.
We are now joined by Jeffrey Lord. He is a Trump supporter. We`re hoping to get in touch with Kwasi Kwarteng, he is a conservative British MP, and he`s here to discuss what Donald Trump has been saying, calling his views objectionable in the past.
Jeffrey Lord, we only have you right now. Hopefully we`ll get in touch with Novak in just a moment. Let`s talk about some of the statements.
Donald Trump is essentially issuing some sort of threat, saying, well, I`m not going to have a great relationship with the prime minister if I`m elected.
Is this something a Republican presidential candidate should be saying at this stage? All right. Jeffrey Lord, can you hear me?
JEFFREY LORD, CNN POLITICAL COMMENTATOR: I can now, yes.
GORANI: All right, let`s talk a little bit about one of the things that Donald Trump told our colleagues at ITV about David Cameron saying, look, you know, some of the things he said about me. I`m not stupid, you know. I might not have a great relationship with him if indeed I`m elected. Is this the type of thing that you believe a presidential candidate should be saying at this stage?
LORD: Actually I think of it in reverse. I`m trying to figure out for the life of me why a British prime minister would jump into the middle of an American presidential election no matter who the candidate is.
As I may have remarked on another occasion we had this discussion about British interference in American domestic affairs and I think it was called the American revolution, which didn`t go well --
GORANI: Yes.
LORD: So -- for the other side here, so I would just respectfully suggest that`s not really a good place for a British prime minister to be.
GORANI: All right. But what about challenging the mayor of London to an IQ test? I mean, does that not sound -- I guess, I mean, for lack of a better word --
LORD: I think he wished the mayor of London well and then the mayor of London took a shot at him.
GORANI: Yes, but then he challenged him to an IQ test. Is that for lack of a better word childish?
LORD: Again, I`m not sure why the mayor of London feels the need to jump into the middle of American presidential politics.
[15:05:00]GORANI: He did because Donald Trump said that he would in fact following his muslin ban proposal make an exception for the muslin mayor of London and I believe the Muslim mayor of London said I don`t need any permission from Donald Trump.
LORD: This is an issue about immigration into America and getting the immigration system fixed. That`s all it is. It`s about a temporary ban.
GORANI: What does that have to do with Muslims? He was saying it was related to the security of the country?
LORD: San Bernardino, where Muslim immigrants came into this country and committed mass murder. The immigration system is not doing its job. All he`s suggesting here is that we stop the system until we understand what`s going on, fix it and then start it up again.
GORANI: All right. But the -- well, San Bernardino, the main shooter was a U.S. citizen, was he not?
LORD: Well, his wife was not and she was very much part of the plot and very much participant in it and the American government didn`t even check her social media when she came in which revealed that she wanted to come here to commit jihad. That`s --
GORANI: I guess, internationally people are unclear how that muslin ban would even work and are also puzzled that now Donald Trump is saying it was only, quote, "a suggestion." So what is it, a policy proposal or just an idea off the cuff?
LORD: Any campaign statement by a non-government official is a suggestion. You know, until your hand goes up on the bible and you`re the actual president of the United States --
GORANI: So we shouldn`t take what he says seriously. We should assume it`s a temporary suggestion that could in fact sort of not fold depending on which way the wind is blowing.
LORD: No, no, no. He`s very clear on wanting to fix both the illegal immigration situation in America and the immigration system that we have that`s clearly not working. You can`t have people come into America who are coming in here with a specific design to commit mass murder.
GORANI: All right.
LORD: I mean, no country should --
GORANI: All right, putting blanket ban on all Muslims some would view that as rather extreme. Kwasi Kwarteng is a conservative member of parliament here in London and I think we have him now on the line.
Mr. Kwasi Kwarteng, I don`t know if you had an opportunity to hear some of what we were discussing with Jeffrey Lord, who supports Donald Trump`s campaign, but talk to me about your reaction to what he said about Sadiq Khan.
That he initially congratulated him, but now he`s challenging him to an IQ test and doesn`t believe, you know, what he said is something that in his opinion makes sense, that he`s been taking shots at him. What`s your reaction to this?
KWASI KWARTENG, CONSERVATIVE BRITISH MP: I think this is perhaps a misunderstanding. Sadiq Khan did make some strong remarks about Donald Trump, and from what I`ve seen of Mr. Trump`s campaign he can hit back in his customary way. It`s very forceful. It grabs attentions.
He used the IQ test which I think he first of all asked Governor Perry of Texas to do, an IQ test, so I think there`s a lot of, you know, to and fro, but I don`t think this is a serious argument. I think Sadiq Khan --
GORANI: You don`t think this threatens the special relationship if Donald Trump is elected president of the United States? Do you think it will remain intact?
KWARTENG: Look, my experience with politicians is that they can be very flexible and I imagine that if Donald Trump is elected president, the relationship between Britain and the United States will be able to continue it is a has done in the past. There are ambassadors.
We have our foreign office. You have your State Department. None of these things are going to go away, and I accept that Trump is a very unconventional and unusual candidate, but I don`t think that the special relationship which has been built up over many decades will necessarily be affected by his being elected president.
GORANI: And I would -- go ahead, Jeffrey.
LORD: I read parts of Mr. Kwarteng`s book on Margaret Thatcher and I think he knows exactly what he`s talking about here.
KWARTENG: That`s very kind of you.
GORANI: I`m glad you`re both agreeing on this. Let me ask you something, Jeffrey, because I think it`s really difficult to underestimate the kind of really reaction of shock from many people around the world when a presidential candidate comes to a podium and says I, Donald J. Trump, call for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.
People were petrified at that idea. That it conjured up moments of very dark moments in history. Is it your belief that Donald Trump is going to backtrack from that?
LORD: You know, I think that`s hysteria. The statement was given in the wake of the San Bernardino shootings, and, again, I would say, I mean, other countries that want to tolerate mass murder from people who are coming into their country in a broken immigration system, that`s their business, but it`s not the view of the United States of America.
We need to fix this system and get it back to where it should be and everybody can come in who meets the legal qualifications. There`s nothing wrong with a country fixing its immigration system.
GORANI: Kwasi Kwarteng, do you believe this just makes Donald Trump, quote, "unconventional" as you called him?
[15:10:08]KWARTENG: Yes, I mean, look, the muslin ban was particularly outrageous to people outside the United States. I think it was a novel concept. Now, he has his own reasons. I mean, I`m an elected politician in Britain, and I respect the Democratic process in the United States.
He`s just won a nomination battle, a hard fought nomination battle, and, you know, his methods, he can justify to his own electors. I accept it was a pretty outrageous thing for him to say, to bring about the Muslim ban. I think it`s also unenforceable, but that`s a matter for him and for his Republican electors.
GORANI: All right, Kwasi Kwarteng, a conservative MP here in Britain, and Jeffrey Lord, a supporter of Donald Trump, thanks very much for both of you for joining us.
LORD: Thank you, Hala.
GORANI: For that interesting conversation. We reached out to Sadiq Khan to be part of this conversation and his office declined to join us on this particular topic saying essentially they said what they had to say about it.
As we know, Donald Trump is no stranger to controversy. We`ve been discussing that a lot including on the home front, and now his campaign is depending off allegations that he has a history of inappropriate behavior with women.
Here`s CNN`s Phil Mattingly with that.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: In politics and in life ignorance is not a virtue.
PHIL MATTINGLY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Donald Trump facing a not so subtle critique on Sunday from the man he`s campaigning to replace.
PRESIDENT OBAMA: It`s not cool to not know what you`re talking about. That`s not keeping it real or telling it like it is. That`s just not knowing what you`re talking about.
MATTINGLY: The presumptive Republican nominee coming under fire amid new allegations of inappropriate behavior with women, dozens of women revealing to the "New York Times" accounts of, quote, "unwelcome romantic advances, unending commentary on the female form and unsettling workplace conduct."
TRUMP: Nobody has more respect for women than do I.
MATTINGLY: A defensive Trump lashing out on Twitter, slamming the report as a lame hit piece, dishonest and a witch-hunt. Trump`s allies offering a defense.
JEFF SESSIONS, U.S. SENATE REPUBLICAN: People have not expected purity on his part. What they are concerned about, they are deeply concerned about is this somebody strong enough to take on Washington?
MATTINGLY: RNC Chairman Reince Priebus acknowledging it`s an issue he`ll have to confront, but won`t change the voters` decision.
REINCE PRIEBUS, REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: These are things that he`s going to have to answer for. All these stories that come out and they come out every couple weeks, but people just don`t care.
MATTINGLY: Trump also denying reports that he used to pose as his own publicist in the `80s and `90s under the names John Miller or John Barron.
"JOHN MILLER" (via telephone): Somebody that has a lot of options and frankly, he gets called by everybody. He gets called by everybody in the book, in terms of women.
MATTINGLY: Despite previously admitting using both pseudonyms.
JAKE TAPPER, CNN HOST, "THE LEAD": Is the campaign seriously claiming that that isn`t Mr. Trump?
PAUL MANAFORT, TRUMP CAMPAIGN CONVENTION MANAGER: I could barely understand it. I couldn`t tell who it is. Donald Trump says it`s not him. I believe it`s not him.
MATTINGLY: Trump`s latest controversies amid continued efforts within the GOP to mount a third-party candidate to derail him. Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse and Mark Cuban both declining the job.
PRIEBUS: They can try to hijack another party and get on the ballot, but, look, it`s a suicide mission for our country.
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MATTINGLY: A third-party candidate aside, Donald Trump`s focus really for the last 24 hours has been all on that "New York Times" story. He is attacking the story saying that it`s false, saying that it`s been shown to be fraudulent and got some backup to that point on Monday morning.
One of the central players in that story came out and said that the "New York Times" basically spun her words, took it in a narrative in a direction that she didn`t plan on taking, saying, she supported Donald Trump and had nothing but good things to say about their relationship with one another.
Now as you can expect, Donald Trump seizing on this saying that this more or less undercuts the entire story calling the story, quote, "a fraud." There`s no surprise in the fact that Donald Trump`s numbers over the last couple of months have continue to grow worse with women amongst the general electorate.
It`s an area where Hillary Clinton and her campaign plan to attack Trump campaign relentlessly in the weeks and months ahead. Donald Trump recognizes that when it comes to women he needs to attack any narrative that shows that it could be a negative for him. If not, it will be severely problematic in the general election. Back to you.
GORANI: All right. Thanks very much. On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton has forged a strong lead in the delegate count, but it`s still having to contend with challenger Bernie Sanders. She`s unveiling an unexpected card in her political deck.
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HILLARY CLINTON (D), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: My husband who I`m going to put in charge of revitalizing the economy because, you know, he knows now do it, and especially in places like coal country and inner cities and other parts of our country that have really been left out.
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[15:15:11]GORANI: Well, the U.S. economy boomed during Bill Clinton`s administration. Still Hillary Clinton has worked hard to forge her own identity.
Now, as a politician and candidate, let`s get more on that surprise announcement hand how it`s likely to play out with voters, let`s bring in CNN`s Joe Johns.
So was this a surprise? It`s an interesting strategy going back to sort of vintage Bill Clinton in the `90s when people felt like the economy was doing a lot better. Will it serve her well?
JOE JOHNS, CNN SENIOR WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Hala, it wasn`t really that much of a surprise. I think Hillary Clinton has said that Bill Clinton`s creativity would be useful especially when it comes to things as you saw in that sound bite the coal industry.
She didn`t mention the sound bite manufacturing, but she said that before. This plays very well in a state like Kentucky, which is a coal- producing state. It is holding its primary election tomorrow so that`s important.
And on top of that Bill Clinton is very popular in Appalachian states like Kentucky so not the first time that Hillary Clinton has suggested she would put her husband in charge of the economy if she becomes president.
Though, it is not clear what role she is envisioning for him. In fact, the campaign said today it would be getting ahead of itself to talk about any formalize role for anyone in her administration should she be elected.
But that`s spokesman, Nick Marrow (ph), said the former president has a lot to offer. It would be foolish not to use him in some capacity.
And Hala, I think you hit the nail on the head. The reason why this is a marketable argument is because the economy did boom during the last part of Bill Clinton`s administration.
Enormous job creation, some of that attributed to White House policies, but it also had to do with the growth of the internet. We can`t forget that, and the internet stock bubble that really got going back in those days -- Hala.
GORANI: Right. Well, people remember that decade fondly, I guess, mainly, as you mentioned, because of the job creation. Let`s talk a little bit about potential vice presidential picks for Hillary Clinton because she`s got a lot to think about. She needs to pick maybe someone younger because she will be on the older side if she gets elected. She needs to think of swing states. What are some of the names out there?
JOHNS: Well, I think one of the names that we`ve heard before obviously is Julian Castro. This is a member of the current administration and is a good possible choice if only because he is Latino. He`s a well-versed in many of the administration`s positions now and going forward might be able to help her as well in -- in the November election.
I think Elizabeth Warren`s name has come up as well. That would be an interesting pick. She is a -- a voice in this country for reform and also sort of a voice of the people.
Her relationship to government goes all the way back to the -- the TARP days when this administration was trying to figure out how it was going to bail out Wall Street and bail out the banks, bail out even the insurance industry.
Elizabeth Warren, who is now a senator from Massachusetts was one of the individuals who was really pushing hard for reform in those areas so those are a couple of names and I`m sure there are many others.
GORANI: She`s had her own -- she`s had her own Twitter spat with Donald Trump so right there amongst some Hillary Clinton supporters, that is -- that is earning her some points. Thanks very much, Joe Johns in Washington.
Still to come tonight, a suspicious package, a stadium evacuation and now a red-faced apology. We`ll have the latest from Manchester after some chaotic scenes there yesterday.
And more on the fallout after a controversial win for Ukraine at the Eurovision song contest. We`ll have the reaction from Moscow. They are saying this is all an orchestrated plan to demonize Russia. We`ll be right back.
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GORANI: A new development to bring you on the fight against ISIS in North Africa. Libya could soon be getting more help, dozens of top diplomats including the U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry say they support some exemptions to the current U.N. arms embargo there.
The weapons would go to Libya`s new government. The country is also asking for help to train its troops and later in the program, we`ll have more on what`s happening on the fight against the terrorist group inside of Syria.
But, now, back to the U.K., it has been called a fiasco. It`s been called outrageous and unacceptable. Just some of the ways Manchester`s police commissioner described the situation at Manchester United`s Old Trafford Stadium on Sunday.
Just to walk you back a little bit and talk you through what happened. The suspicious device prompted the stadium to be evacuated and a crucial game was cancelled. Here`s the thing. It turned out to be a training device, which was left at the stadium by mistake.
The managing director of the contractor involved has now apologized saying that the mistake is entirely his. The police commissioner has called for an inquiry into what happened.
Let`s go to the stadium now and CNN`s Christina Macfarlane is there. So there was an apology from this security company, and the head of the security company is saying my bad, I left that backpack in the wash room, correct?
CHRISTINA MACFARLANE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely correct, Hala. We`ve been waiting all day for someone to put their hand up and apologize for this unprecedented blunder and in the past hour, the owner of that private firm who was contracted by Manchester United four days before the match took place to conduct a training drill, he was the one that left that device in the stadium by accident.
He`s spoken out. He said he is massively embarrassed. His professional pride injured. He`s apologize and he said he`s glad that no one got hurt, but that this is an error that will live with him for a very long time.
I think it`s safe to say that he may not be back in business anytime soon and the reason being this was an enormously costly blunder.
To Manchester United alone it`s said to have cost them something in the region of $4.3 million for the events that happened yesterday and for the rescheduling of the match that`s going to take place tomorrow at 8 p.m.
And that`s not when you consider the additional cost of the city cost, the cost of calling out the police, the bomb disposal teams and the sniffer dogs and the question as to who foots that bill for the moment still remains unanswered.
GORANI: Christina, the mayor of Manchester must be among those who are absolutely furious that this happened. You were able to speak to him. What did he say?
MACFARLANE: That`s right, Hala. He was furious when I spoke to him this morning. He called it an unacceptable incompetence. He said that they would be launching their own independent investigation into this and that this was a situation that everyone involved needed to learn for. Here`s what he had to say.
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TONY LLOYD, GREATER MANCHESTER POLICE COMMISSIONER AND MAYOR: There is a gap in the security, and that gap has now got to be recognized. That gap has now got to be filled to make sure that -- that in the event of somebody trying to place a device that that will be discovered.
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MACFARLANE: The irony of this situation, Hala, is that the Club Manchester United did release a statement a short while ago and in that they said that the device was unable to be tracked down because it was a fake. It didn`t contain explosives and the sniffer dogs were not able to pick it up.
Now in a real situation they are saying that would have been detected far sooner than half an hour before the match so I guess the silver lining in all of this is had this been a dangerous situation we may not have got to the stage that we saw yesterday.
And that the security teams here are on the ground actually responded very efficiently and professionally so that has been some comfort to those at Manchester United today.
[15:25:01]GORANI: Right, and they evacuated the stadium quickly so at least that went according to plan. Christina Macfarlane in Manchester, thanks very much.
Let`s stay in England and you`ll remember a few weeks ago, we told you about Leicester City`s fairy tale title triumph. Well, their supporters have taken to the streets for an official celebration finally, thousands and thousands of them.
The victorious team made its way through the city on open top buses. Thousands of other fans made their way to a park where the celebrations continued and if you`ll remember and for many of you who have followed this very closely, it is Leicester City`s first title in their 132-year history so they have partied like it doesn`t happen more often than that.
Now to the fallout from the Eurovision song contest, Ukrainian singer, Jamala won with a song called "1944." Now it`s about the deportation of an ethnic group from Crimea during the Second World War and it`s a story of her grandmother that have impact she said.
Now Moscow saw this song as anti-Russian and as a critique of Russia`s annexation of Crimea two years ago. It comes amid allegations of Russian doping at its own Olympics in 2014 so the view from Moscow, here`s Matthew Chance with that story.
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MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was meant to be a spectacular turning point, an international event which Russia could redeem its battered reputation.
But this carefully choreographed Eurovision performance from one of Russia`s biggest top stars didn`t make the cut. Even worse it was beaten to victory by Ukraine with an overtly politically song seen as critical of the kremlin. Disappointed Russians are calling foul.
(on camera): Do you think it was a political decision?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
CHANCE: Why? Why do you think that? Maybe his song wasn`t good enough?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I always think that Eurovision is a political contest but not -- not music.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE (through translator): They think they didn`t judge the vocals. They simply closed their eyes to Russia`s performance which definitely stood out. To get zero points from some European countries whose public liked it is something weird.
CHANCE: (Inaudible) they reflected and even encouraged on the Russian state television with the country`s top news anchor dubbed by the western media as its propaganda-in-chief noting that Russia`s entry won the popular vote losing on the official count.
The results of Eurovision is purely political, Dmitry s Kisilov (ph) said, reflecting the current situation in the European Union. The bureaucracy is heading one way, he adds, while the people are heading the other.
