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LOU DOBBS, HOST: Good evening, everybody. I'm Lou Dobbs.
Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are on the attack with just 12 hours to go before polls close in South Carolina -- rather, open. Trump is trying to make sure he wins by double digits, as polls suggest he will. And Cruz is hoping that the conservative coalition that boosted him to victory in Iowa will do the same tomorrow. And the attacks, they just keep coming.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You talk about people that lie, this Ted Cruz -- this is the biggest liar I've ever seen.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: Even -- I'll tell you what was good. Even Marco Rubio said he's a liar. And when a politician says another politician's a liar -- I never heard that before. I felt so good!
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Let me tell you right now, it's easy to say, Let's make America great again. You can even print that on a baseball cap.
(LAUGHTER)
CRUZ: But the question to ask is do you understand what made America great in the first place?
(APPLAUSE)
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DOBBS: Well, Trump right now holding a rally in North Charleston, South Carolina. We'll be checking in on the Trump rally here later in the show.
Also tonight, Jeb Bush once again turning to his 90-year-old mother to help keep his campaign energized, the former Florida governor facing what some political analysts say is a make or break primary election tomorrow. We'll discuss the Republican race with FOX News digital politics editor Chris Stirewalt, The Weekly Standard's Fred Barnes and conservative commentator Cathy Lynn Taylor (ph).
Also tonight, Trump catching his audience and supporters by surprise. Trump obviously believes that Apple has a civic responsibility to help the FBI in this national security case, and he's upset that Apple's CEO is defying a federal court order to help the FBI open the iPhone used by one of the San Bernardino terrorists.
Trump today called for a boycott of all Apple products until CEO Tim Cook complies with that court order and cooperates with the FBI.
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DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: What I think you ought to do is boycott Apple until such time as they give that security number. The phone's not even owned by this young thug that killed all these people. The phone's owned by the government. Tim Cook is looking to do a big number, probably to show how liberal he is. Boycott Apple until such time as they give that information. I think that's a great idea.
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DOBBS: And a senior Apple executive firing right back, saying Donald Trump's call for a boycott simply puts the company in standing with other good people Trump has criticized.
And the Justice Department? Well, Trump and the Justice Department are on the same side in this one, extending the timetable for Apple's compliance with the court order until Friday of next week, and the Justice Department made it clear at the same time that the patience of the attorney general with Apple is wearing thin.
Our top story tonight is the fight for South Carolina, Trump right now poised for a huge win after leading polls there since last November. So the principal question is, who has the most to lose with a disappointing finish, Cruz, Rubio or Bush?
FOX News chief political correspondent Carl Cameron is in Columbia, South Carolina, with our report.
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CARL CAMERON, FOX CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): On the eve of the 2016 South Carolina presidential primary, the first real example of the type of sharp elbows that can be thrown here comes in the form of robocalls and radio ads featuring Donald Trump's defense of the Confederate flag and Governor Nikki Haley's removal of said flag from the statehouse grounds.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Trump talks about our flag like it's a social disease!
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Respect whatever it is that you have to respect, let it go, put it in a museum.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Donald Trump's bankrolled nearly every major Democrat in the country.
CAMERON: The Cruz campaign is disavowing the super-PAC, saying they don't appreciate, they don't agree with the tone of that radio ad.
On the eve of the primary, the polls have shown a closing race and a late night likely tomorrow night.
TRUMP: No matter what you're doing, you have to just say I've got to take 10 minutes, I've got to go out and vote.
CAMERON: Donald Trump had a double-digit lead for weeks, so expectations are high after battling with the pope and former president George W. Bush and the discovery of a 2002 interview with Howard Stern in which Trump said he supported the Iraq war, contradicting his claims of having been an early critics.
TRUMP: The first guy ever asked me about Iraq was Howard Stern. I said, Oh, I don't -- yes, I guess so. Then I started looking at it. Before the war started, I was against that war.
CAMERON: The latest Marist poll shows Trump ahead but in a virtual tie with Ted Cruz within the margin of error. Cruz came in third in New Hampshire and would get a huge boost if he beats Trump, who he hammered today as wrong on basic U.S. foreign policy.
CRUZ: You know, just this week, Donald Trump said in a TV program that he would be neutral between Israel and the Palestinians.
(BOOS)
CRUZ: So let me tell you this. As president, I have no intention of being neutral!
CAMERON: Rubio's third and can't afford to slip, having come in fifth in New Hampshire. He now needs to show momentum.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're very blessed as a party to have so many good people, OK? And look, none of our candidates is a socialist. That's a good thing.
(LAUGHTER)
RUBIO: And none of our candidates is under FBI investigation!
CAMERON: For Jeb Bush, the expectations are the most intense. He campaigned with his mother again today and his brother earlier this week. He needs to be among or very near the top three or could face an exodus of donors and volunteers.
JEB BUSH (R-FL), FMR. GOV., PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Donald Trump has never shown any interest in anybody else other than himself. And the two candidates that are gifted speakers, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, have shown nothing in their past that would suggest they can make a tough decision.
CAMERON: John Kasich says he's going forward no matter what happens.
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: We're going get to Ohio. We're going to get to Pennsylvania. So we're going everywhere. It's a national campaign.
CAMERON: Dr. Ben Carson today has revealed that he had a private meeting with Ted Cruz last night in a broom closet at a conservative cattle call where they were supposed to be discussing what Carson has called Cruz's dirty tricks in Iowa. Carson's team has revealed he didn't appreciate the outcome. The Cruz campaign acknowledges the meeting but not the contents.
(on camera): There are six major candidates on the ballot in South Carolina tomorrow. The back three could be in for a very gloomy weekend.
In Columbia, South Carolina, Carl Cameron, FOX News.
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DOBBS: Well, Donald Trump tonight, as I said, holding a rally at the North Charleston Convention Center in South Carolina. He's been talking about the funding of his campaign, self-funded, and all of the lobbyist money pouring into his opponents, as he put it. Let's listen.
DONALD TRUMP (R), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: He was getting ready to do it again. I don't want to hear it. Look, so we send, we send them wheat. We send them cattle. They don't want our cattle, so they send it back. Goes back and forth, back and forth. Finally, they accept it. They call it kobe beef because it's aged. I mean, the stuff is rotted.
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TRUMP: No, no, it's, like, rotted. So because it's aged, it's decaying, it's disgusting, they call it kobe beef, and they charge you 10 times more for it. You tell me they're not smart? That's Japan. Japan is killing us. Komatsu -- look at what they're doing to Caterpillar. A friend of mine is an excavator. He buys excavating equipment, right? He goes out and he buys excavating equipment.
I say, What are you doing? You're not buying Caterpillar. I can't. They have cut the yen, they have devalued their currency to such an extent, first time in his life he's buying excavation equipment from Komatsu. I said, What's the difference? He said, They're both good, Caterpillar's better, but this is good enough. I owe it to my family, I owe it to my employees and my company.
I understand what he's saying. They've devalued their currency. Take a look at Caterpillar stock. Take a look at what's happening to Caterpillar. It's happening to all of us. Right here, you have Boeing. Boeing is being forced to build a massive plant in China, a number of massive plants.
(BOOS)
TRUMP: Folks, folks, let me just tell you something. Unless I'm president, you watch what happens. Won't happen with me because I know the game better than any human being that's ever lived. Nobody knows it better.
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DOBBS: Donald Trump with a modest claim, but also leaning on again on a very important issue to this country, and that is international trade. He is the only candidate examining the impact on jobs of all of the various trade agreements and bilateral relationships, including, as you heard him speaking there, with Japan, which has had a persistent trade surplus with the United States, China, Boeing required to do offset production -- that is, turning over the production of parts of the aircraft that they sell to the Chinese or manufacture in China.
And the list goes on. In aggregate, millions of jobs have been lost over the course of these past two decades as a result of outsourcing, offshoring and offset sales that require the manufacture, at least in part, in the economy that is buying those parts.
We will return to Mr. Trump as soon as we hear something that is newsworthy or just simply outrageously entertaining, as is often the case.
Meanwhile, Democratic presidential candidates focused on tomorrow's caucuses in Nevada, a state that was once considered a sure thing for Hillary Clinton. It's now anything but.
FOX News chief White House correspondent Ed Henry is in Las Vegas and has our report.
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ED HENRY, FOX CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Hillary Clinton raced across Las Vegas today making her final pitch to groups she's having trouble connecting with, from young people to women...
HILLARY CLINTON (D-NY), FMR. SEC. OF STATE, PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I actually do want to have seven days of paid sick leave.
HENRY: ... just hours after bringing more attention to another sore spot, honesty and trustworthiness, with this awkward answer.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Have you always told the truth?
CLINTON: I've always tried to. Always. Always.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Some people are going to call that wiggle room that you just gave yourself.
CLINTON: Well, no, I...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... always, always tried to. I mean...
CLINTON: No, I've always tried to...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... Jimmy Carter...
HENRY: And at a forum here in Las Vegas last night, Clinton was booed by a friendly Democratic audience during an MSNBC town hall when she pointed to some of Bernie Sanders's criticisms of President Obama and questioned the socialist's loyalty.
CLINTON: Senator Sanders wasn't really a Democrat until he decided to run for president.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
CLINTON: He doesn't even know what the, you know, last two Democratic presidents did. And I'm...
(BOOS)
CLINTON: You know, I'm -- well, it's true! It's true. You know it's true!
HENRY: Then there's her cash crunch, the Los Angeles Times reporting Clinton is running out of celebrities in Hollywood to get money from because many have given the maximum $2,700 allowed by law, an anonymous Clinton loyalist telling the newspaper, quote, "The pond is getting fished out." While Sanders is the king of small contributions so he can keep tapping his supporters for more money, a point he stressed at a stop today in Elko.
SEN. BERNIE SANDERS (D-VT), PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: And you know what the average contribution was? Twenty-seven dollars!
HENRY: Clinton did get a major boost today with the endorsement of a key African-American leader, Congressman James Clyburn. Yet Clinton was not there for the endorsement, which was expected to be rolled out next week, closer to the South Carolina primary, a sign the Clinton camp may be trying to blunt the damage from a possible loss on Saturday here in Nevada.
So in Las Vegas, she's getting last-minute help from a one-time foe, former Obama campaign manager David Plouffe.
DAVID PLOUFFE, FORMER OBAMA CAMPAIGN MANAGER: Good luck. Let's win the battle.
HENRY: And in South Carolina, Hollywood legend Morgan Freeman is lending his voice to this Clinton TV ad.
MORGAN FREEMAN, ACTOR: Her life's work has been about breaking barriers, and so would her presidency.
HENRY (on camera): Here's why Clinton's money problems matter. We've learned next Monday and Tuesday, she'll be back in California, raising money yet again, valuable time off the campaign trail, while Sanders is free to stump in South Carolina or any other battleground.
In Las Vegas, Ed Henry, FOX News.
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DOBBS: Turning to the legal battle between Apple and the FBI, the Justice Department today filed a motion to force Apple to comply with a federal court order to break into the locked iPhone of one of the San Bernardino terrorists that he used, prosecutors saying Apple's refusal was, quote, "based on its concern for its business model rather than a legal rationale."
Apple's CEO, Tim Cook, has publicly said he intends to fight that order. The company has not yet filed any legal documents to that effect, will be doing so in the next week. Earlier today, Apple received a three-day extension from the Justice Department giving it until Friday, next Friday, to respond to the federal court order.
On Wall Street, stocks closed mixed, but still this week the best of this year so far. The Dow Jones Industrials fell 21 points, the S&P lost a fraction, the NASDAQ up 17. Volume on the big board, 4.1 billion shares for the week, the Dow and S&P up more than 2.5 percent, the NASDAQ with a weekly gain of 3.5 percent, crude oil tumbling more than 3 percent, settling below $30 a barrel. The yield on the 10-year at 1.75, down a basis point as you see there.
I want to turn now to a somber day in Washington, where mourners lined up to pay their respects to the late Supreme Court justice Antonin Scalia, President Obama, the first lady and other justices among those who visited Scalia's flag-draped casket at the Great Hall of the Supreme Court. Scalia's son, Father Paul Scalia, addressed some of those who were gathered to say a prayer.
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FATHER PAUL SCALIA, SON OF JUSTICE SCALIA: God of faithfulness, in your wisdom, you have called your servant, Antonin, out of this world. Release him from the bonds of sin and welcome him into your presence so that he may enjoy eternal light and peace.
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DOBBS: And Scalia's funeral is tomorrow at Washington's Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. It is the largest Catholic church in this country.
There is much more straight ahead. We are coming right back. Stay with us.
The Vatican walking back the pope's slam on Donald Trump as Trump does the Christian thing, turning the other cheek.
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TRUMP: I think he's a terrific person, frankly.
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DOBBS: How does all this affect Trump and the Republican race? Digital politics editor Chris Stirewalt here next.
And a man testing a body camera has no idea whatsoever he's about to capture stunning and rare video with a rare perspective. We'll have that spectacular video for you right after these messages.
We'll be right back. Stay with us.
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DOBBS: This breaking news, the State Department tonight releasing more than 500 Hillary Clinton e-mails. This latest release contains 64 more of the classified e-mails. That brings the total number of classified e-mails on her server -- remember, she said there were none -- now 1,731.
And of course, we're just beginning to go through those e-mails, and we'll be bringing to you whatever it is we discover in this latest Friday night late document dump.
We want to go now real quickly -- Donald Trump at a rally in North Charleston Convention Center in South Carolina, talking about just moments ago the Islamic State. Here we are live.
TRUMP: ... in pig's blood. You heard that, right? He fit -- he took 50 bullets and he dipped them in pig's blood! And he had his men load his rifles and he lined up the 50 people, and they shot 49 of those people. And the 50th person. he said, You go back to your people and you tell them what happened.
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TRUMP: And for 25 years, there wasn't a problem, OK, 25 years, there wasn't a problem, all right? So we better start getting tough and we better start getting vigilant, and we better start using our heads or we're not going to have a country folks. We're not going to have a country.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the greatest country in the world.
TRUMP: What?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the greatest country in the world.
TRUMP: It is. I love this country. That's why I'm doing this! I love this country! We want to keep this country.
(CHEERS AND APPLAUSE)
TRUMP: We want to keep this country. We want to make -- look, I'll tell you something. I've been saying something because I've been meeting so many people, millions and millions of people. One of the reporters today, a great reporter, television reporter, said to me, I've been doing this, Mr. Trump -- and he didn't say this on the record and I wouldn't tell his name, but he said, I've been doing this for 25 years. In 25 years, sir, I have never, ever, ever seen anything like what's happening with you and with your people. It's amazing!
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TRUMP: It's amazing.
DOBBS: Donald Trump in North Charleston, South Carolina. As you can tell, he has an attentive and responsive audience, as he does everywhere he goes.
Well, here to help us break down what is happening in this extraordinary, unprecedented, I believe, primary campaigns, our favorite political savant, FOX News digital politics editor Chris Stirewalt. Great to have you were, Chris.
CHRIS STIREWALT, FOX DIGITAL POLITICS EDITOR: And great -- I did not know that I would be coming in on any pig blood.
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STIREWALT: You never know.
DOBBS: Well, 49 out of 50 bullets, apparently highly effective. This has got to be apocryphal, no?
STIREWALT: Well, I'm looking here, and this is the Internet, which is a weird space...
DOBBS: Oh, that's a perfectly reliable...
STIREWALT: It's a perfectly reliable -- I read it on the Internet, it must be true. And it is the story of John J. Pershing, Black Jack, when he...
DOBBS: Blackjack Pershing.
STIREWALT: ... who...
DOBBS: U.S. Army.
STIREWALT: Quite so -- that he -- apparently, there's an apocryphal story, which means, as we would say in journalism, too good to check.
(LAUGHTER)
STIREWALT: That he dipped a bullet -- to deal with Muslim terrorists, he dipped bullets in pig blood, and that's what the Internet says.
DOBBS: Presumably, those would have been hollow points...
(LAUGHTER)
DOBBS: But anyway...
STIREWALT: No comment, Brother Dobbs.
DOBBS: Let's turn to this race tomorrow. I mean, let's start off with what I said, it's historic.
STIREWALT: Totally.
DOBBS: I mean, I -- in my career and in my readings of political history, there isn't a race in the world -- or certainly in this country -- to compare to this, at least in the last -- since the 1900s.
STIREWALT: Well, think about it this way. We didn't have a primary system like we have today until 1976.
DOBBS: Right.
STIREWALT: 1980, really. The '76 election was sort of in between, 1980. And so we have -- all of this has happened in a relatively short period of time. And in the modern era, we've got nothing like it.
DOBBS: Nothing like it, we have to -- and because of the -- and this is not an endorsement of Trump. It doesn't matter who you're for, who you're against, Democrat, Republican, independent. I mean, this thing is tumultuous. It is -- and certainly, Donald Trump is at the center of nearly all of it.
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DOBBS: ... wild.
STIREWALT: What if I'd have told you a year ago that Bernard J. Sanders, self-identified socialist democrat of the people's republic of Vermont, would be not just -- not just at parity with Hillary Clinton, but starting to lead her in national polls, threatening her in Nevada? What if that -- and you say, What is going on here?
DOBBS: If you'd have told me that in December, I'd have been highly dubious.
STIREWALT: You would have been highly dubious. And the reality is the bases of both political parties -- so we've been told one thing pretty consistently for the last 20 years, which is ideologically siloed. There's a liberal party and there's a conservative party. What do we increasingly see? Is that the voters of these two parties say, You know what? Maybe we'll do what we want. Maybe you won't tell us what to do.
DOBBS: It seems to be that is precisely the attitude that is being driven in both the Sanders candidacy and the Trump candidacy, and it's made life very difficult for everyone else because that seems to be what is resonating across the country.
STIREWALT: Sticking it to the man is fun. People enjoy it, and it feels good.
DOBBS: Well, there will be, as you well know because you're going to be on the decision desk watching this thing through from Nevada for the Democratic caucuses there, the primary election in South Carolina -- Trump looks to be...
STIREWALT: Should be.
DOBBS: ... so far ahead, it's...
STIREWALT: He's 14 points ahead in the RealClearPolitics average of polls going into this. He needs to hit that -- he did it in New Hampshire. He demonstrated that in an open -- and in New Hampshire, it's semi-open -- in South Carolina, it's all the way open, Democrats, independents -- his coalition...
DOBBS: And rational, by the way, at the same time, still rational.
STIREWALT: His coalition can march in South Carolina. They -- Democrats, independents and Republicans can all show up to vote for Trump. We expect him to do that well, 14 points ahead. I expect him to do that number or maybe even better.
DOBBS: And turning to Nevada, the caucuses harder to judge, harder to apply a metric that's convincing. Your expectations.
STIREWALT: In Iowa, they flipped coins. In Nevada, they cut cards. I expect Bernie Sanders and his motivated folks to keep it pretty close, and Hillary Clinton will have to wait another week for her firewall to kick in.
DOBBS: Wow! All right. Look forward to seeing you tomorrow. Thanks for being here tonight.
STIREWALT: We'll be there.
DOBBS: Chris Stirewalt.
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A man in Australia testing out his body camera, and that worked out well for us. Look at this. He managed to capture this stunning moment when, as you will see here -- whoa! -- a meteor lit up the sky above a beach in Victoria, the bright lights followed by the falling meteor streaking through the sky straight toward the water.
We can't tell you what happened after. It's a classified matter. I'm just kidding. Besides, the video is missing now, inexplicably. The camera can't be found, or its operator. Joking, of course. It was a meteor, spectacular at that, and that's just how these things should end.
Up next, a few thoughts on the stakes for the GOP in South Carolina, the Dems in Nevada tomorrow. And the world-famous Harlem Globetrotters once again coming up with an incredible, seemingly impossible trick shot. You don't want to miss it. That video has not disappeared. We have it cued up and ready for you here next, only if you watch these messages, though.
We're coming right back. Stay with us.
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LOU DOBBS, FOX BUSINESS HOST: A few thoughts now on what's at stake at tomorrow's Republican Primary in South Carolina. Here's how it's going to work for the Republicans including 29 delegates that go to the winner of the primary. Three delegates awarded to the winner of each of that state's seven congressional districts, a total of 50 delegates at stake.
Overall, 1,237 needed to become the party's nominee. Trump leading in the race but he's got ways to go. Seventeen delegates he's won so far, Cruz with 11, Rubio with 10. Of course Republicans require delegates both the will of voters in each state unlike Democrats that super delegate, super scandal of theirs. How bad is the misrepresentation and chicanery of the Democratic Party in all of this? Let me just show you.
Hillary Clinton has a massive lead, she holds nearly 25 times more super delegates than poor Senator Bernie Sanders. Right now it's 451 to 19, this after they split the vote in Iowa and Sanders' big win in new Hampshire. The Democrats, I mean they -- one man one vote, one woman one vote. I mean, what are they doing over their? Talk about disenfranchisement. They won't even let the people select the nominees.
We'll have complete coverage of tomorrow's Republican primary in South Carolina as well as the Democratic caucus in Nevada. I hope you will join me tomorrow. We begin at 6:00 p.m. right here on the Fox Business Network. You don't want to miss it, that's 6:00 p.m. Eastern right here. Our quotation of the evening, this one from Thucydides in the history of the Peloponnesian War who said -- democracy and elections, "In a democracy, someone who fails to get elected to office can always console himself with the thought that there was something not quite fair about it."
Things haven't changed much have they? We're coming right back. Stay with us. Hillary Clinton can't quite assure the public that she's never ever lied.
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HILLARY CLINTON, (D) U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, you're asking me to say, have I ever? I don't believe I ever have.
DOBBS: How big is trust in the Democratic Nevada caucuses tomorrow? We're about to find out. We take it up with Fred Barnes and Cathy Lynn Taylor here next. An extreme biking through an urban obstacle course with no margin for error. We'll show you the video when "Lou Dobbs Tonight" continues. Stay with us, we'll be right back.