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SMIKLE: Think so.
REGAN: So I think a lot of this poll data is hard to decipher in New Hampshire because it could change, it probably will change. With that in mind, how does someone like Trump, Fare versus Cruz, versus Rubio battle?
SMIKLE: Well, it's a question really for me about emotion versus pragmatism. Donald Trump speaks to the emotion of a lot of Americans, apparently. I think having done some canvassing in New Hampshire, New Hampshire voters are probably the most -- one of the most -- some of the most distinct in the country. So, they want them, they want the opportunity here.
REGAN: Thank you for that, I'd agree.
SMIKLE: You're welcome. You're welcome. They want to hear everybody out. But ultimately to me the vote for Donald Trump is an emotional vote; it's not a pragmatic vote because I don't know if anybody believes he can win in the general election. So I think they want to be convinced that he can win in a general. I'm not sure they're going to get that opportunity.
REGAN: OK. So he's not the guy that wins in the general. And I think that you know, a lot of voters may be contemplating this in New Hampshire as they go to the voting booth. They don't want to waste their vote.
SMIKLE: Right.
REGAN: So who's the next logical guy to put in?
SIEGFRIED: Well, right now, we're seeing in New Hampshire a competition between John Kasich, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie and Marco Rubio for sort of that establishment lane candidate that can be the alternative to Ted Cruz and Donald Trump. And whomever comes out of New Hampshire, out of those four performing best is going to be the person who's going to be able to go forward.
REGAN: Chris Christie got the endorsement from the union leader, Newt Gringrich state...
SIEGFRIED: So that the Newt Gingrich, and that didn't happened.
REGAN: Why the newspaper? But he climbed it quite a bit, nonetheless still in fourth place. So it will be interesting to see. The fact, because Donald Trump's thing because you don't think he can win on national level. I think that -- is it women? Is it -- will he lose women? I mean, he's got such a tremendous amount of enthusiasm amongst some of the Republican base, I don't know why you think he can't actually.
SMIKLE: Well because -- I mean there were.
REGAN: . face it?
SMIKLE: . even though I think the polls today may not reflect Trump's inability to talk, and to be conversing on Foreign Policy for example or any specifics on economy. I think that's something you don't mind paying attention to during the course of the campaign cycle as it's here today. But when you're actually going in a booth and pull the lever and you want someone to be a symbol for the country, that's really what you're asking.
REGAN: Is he not presidential in your view?
SMIKLE: I don't know, yeah, I don't think he's presidential. When you talk about banning Muslims I don't think that is presidential.
REGAN: All right.
SMIKLE: And so and I think both the poll going to see that.
REGAN: Or taking on people as he has taken on people.
SMIKLE: And I think both is also see that.
REGAN: . not presidential, Evan?
SIEGFRIED: It doesn't, if he doesn't appear presidential. He's not what I want in a president. It's too, he is too reacting and it's just all over the place and pandering almost. He said in an interview in July that he was both isolationist and interventionalist at same time which doesn't make sense and he was just pandering to the interview. I was very confused.
SMIKLE: Or probably he want better.
SIEGFRIED: I was very confused.
SMIKLE: I see him mongering. That's what it is. I mean, he has tried to tap into his fear and his anger and its working.
REGAN: It is.
SMIKLE: But for -- but it's also very scary. You know, it's dictatorial, it's authoritarian and again and you're right, I don't know if.
REGAN: But he's kind of saying the things that did a lot of Americans feel right now. I mean isn't that bottom line? I mean so many politicians because they want to seem presidential and they want seem like the buttoned up politician won't say these things.
SIEGFRIED: Well he.
REGAN: He is willing to go there.
SIEGFRIED: He is the result of President Obama being so cautious. He is the extreme and polar opposite of what President Obama is. He's caught -- he's reckless into a point. And it is really resonating because we've had almost eight years of this weak president and.
REGAN: And people.
SIEGRIED: . it's just been hitting the point in.
REGAN: . are what? He said what?
SMIKLE: Well.
REGAN: He said what?
SMIKLE: I got.
REGAN: And he's still climbed higher.
SMIKLE: I got to tell you.
REGAN: Got have last one debate.
SMIKLE: I don't agree with the reckless comment. And I believe talked about that in other time. What I do think though, and we were to use early about reactionary, Trump is in many ways reactionary but he's not leading and that's I think the difference between being presidential or not.
REGAN: Thank you so much guys. Good to have you here.
SIEGFRIED: Thanks.
REGAN: All right, a quick reminder everyone. We are just one week away from the big debate. We're going for round two with the Republican Presidential Candidates. Join me there with Sandra Smith in Charleston, South Carolina next Thursday, January 14th for the important questions. The ones we know you want answers to. It all kicks off at 6:00 P.M. Eastern only right here on FOX business.
All right. Coming up, more bad news for embattled restaurant chain Chipotle. The company today hit with subpoena in a criminal investigation over a norovirus outbreak that sickened customers. Stay with me, that's next.
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REGAN: OK. Big things going on in Las Vegas right now, the gadget gurus are on gathering today at the consumer electronics show known as CES. It's kicking off and thousands of techies are all expected to flood the convention center touring around at the next generation of products. That is where we find our very own Liz Claman who is standing by with the co- founder of next to be our, the leader in virtual reality broadcast technology. Pretty cool stuff. OK. Liz, take it away.
LIZ CLAMAN, "COUNTDOWN TO THE CLOSING BELL" HOST: Well, here we are in what I would argue to be the most crowded area. This is for wearables and you've got dancers and people hanging from all the kinds of things from the ceiling. You can see her up there. That's iFit. They've got all kinds of sensors on their things and you've got Fitbit over here, you've got sporting all kinds of sport trackers, but DJ Roller is the man who is talking about next V.R., and what is next V.R? Hi D.J..
D.J. ROLLER, NEXTVR CO-FOUNDER: Hi Liz.
CLAMAN: You believe you want to be the next Netflix of virtual reality. What does that mean?
ROLLER: It means there's a whole new medium of delivering content, an immersive way that will pass.
CLAMAN: Immersive when you're talking about instead of being a basketball game from a T.V. you're seating on the front row?
ROLLER: Exactly Liz, you're no longer watching, you're actually in it at there, experiencing.
CLAMAN: Here's the head. OK. So, Trish,, I want to show you, when I put this on, and thanks to a whole bunch of cameras that they have, that I think that we also have video of the cameras that they can do. You can actually see but right now I am looking, this is so weird, I am in the pit crew of a NASCAR race, and the car is pulling up, I wish you could see. I mean this is unbelievable. It goes from and way making you a viewer to an actual participant.
ROLLER: Exactly, and you're actually in a place you can't buy a ticket.
CLAMAN: Yeah but this is for big events. You've done the cold play concerts, NBA games and what's next?
ROLLER: All those have gone to this towards entertainment, live music, news, it's all coming in virtual reality.
CLAMAN: What does it really mean? Now, D.J. are we going to be almost anti-social wearing these things?
ROLLER: I think this is the one that's in the circle being in the planet. Because this integrate social media, interactivity with friends so you might have a friend have a copy around the world, it can go here and that way you can go too together in V.R.
CLAMAN: And you've raised a lot of money, how much?
ROLLER: 30 billion.
CLAMAN: 30 billion and you're getting it from Turner Sports and the couple of other operations. What is your next big plan?
ROLLER: Right now, were building the team out. We're scaling and building the team to do global distribution of content.
CLAMAN: Are you hiring?
ROLLER: We are hiring in all positions.
CLAMAN: If I told you that the economy is slow, you as an entrepreneur, would say what?
ROLLER: Absolutely not.
CLAMAN: Not for you?
ROLLER: No, not at all. This is a -- it's -- this is as big as the beginning of television. It's a completely new medium and it's a way to connect people as content in the medium like never before.
CLAMAN: How much is it going to cost for somebody to be able to wear one of these and experience, I don't know. For me, I'd like to be up against the glass at a national hockey league game.
ROLLER: Right. Well, right now, it's going to be, this one here is I think only run $99. But there is cardboard. The Google has a cardboard version. There's ones that you're having bundled with phones. So, there's a lot of way you could actually -- a lot of ways.
CLAMAN: DJ Roller of NextVR. Trish, I have to tell you, to walk back over here. It's important to note that there's always a theme that emerges here with a 170,000 anytime here at the Consumer Electronics Show. The theme this year is virtual reality and wearables.
As I leave you these dancers from iFit are going to perform just a little bit here and they've got these sensors. It's just fascinating to me, as I know you work out as well. And they've got all these displays which draw quite the big crowd. Trish, back to you.
REGAN: It's good stuff, very interesting. We'll keep checking in with you. Thank you so much Liz. Liz is going to talk to the CEO of Under Armour, Kevin Plank. Coming up next, you don't want to miss that at three score, yet another victory everyone for political correctness. Up next, my intel on why one New Jersey school is scrapping, "God bless America."
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REGAN: OK. Everyone, we are looking at a pretty steep sale off right no as you see the market at almost 300 points.
A lot of nervousness in the South there and partly because the North Korea but also because oil prices are falling shortly more than 5.5 percent today.
Seven year low hot after China reported that service sector continues to weaken lowering demand for energy out of there. Of course, as they said, North Korea and all the stock of a Hydrogen bomb which actually the White House has said that it is not the case of the death had added to the turmoil were staying.
Back in home, Chipotle has been served to the Federal Grand Jury subpoena as part of the criminal investigation of a norovirus outbreak this summer in California. This is at the latest call of the company which has been reeling from an E-Coli outbreak and a separate norovirus outbreak in Boston. Eat at your own risk there.
All right. I'm back with the intel on the PC police which are back and forth banning the phrase, "God bless America."
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REGAN: OK. You know, there are expressions we used everyday. When someone sneezes, we say, "God bless you." Sometimes, when you see an adorable baby, you might say, "Oh, God bless." But, you're God forbid -- I did it again, you say, "God bless America" at school or you might have the American civil liberties union on your back.
An elementary school in Southern New Jersey has the ACLU all up in arms right now because students were saying, "God bless America" after reciting the pledge of allegiance at their morning assembly.
The school began a tradition of saying, "God bless America" after the horrific events of 9/11. Well, the ACLU saying, "God bless America," it's unconstitutional they say. And they've written the school principal, a letter saying quote, "Invoking God's blessing as a daily ritual is a violation of the Establishment Clause [In the constitution]" since it "allegedly promotes religious over non-religious beliefs."
The principal says, "No, you know, we're not being religious, we're just being patriotic." I mean, there is a say that that song, right that we play on the 4th of July, "God bless America?"
Well, the school, it turns out will not challenge the ACLU on any of this. So, what's next? Are teachers going to get a letter from the PC police that they say, "God bless you" when a child sneezes? Let's hope it doesn't come to that.
All right. Coming up everyone, nearly 200 Muslim workers were fired from a meat packing plant in Colorado. At issue, five prayer breaks a day no matter what. What about productivity? What about the needs to run a business? Does it matter at all? That's next.
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REGAN: All right, everyone, a Colorado meat plant is under fire today for laying off 200 Muslim workers.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They say this is a new policy. They used to let people pray for the last eight, nine years. And are all of a sudden they said no.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I said before, you have to respect everybody, got to get and come to a new policy. Say," no pray", I can't do that.
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REGAN: Well, hundreds of Muslim workers walked off the job back in December when they were told they could not all leave at the exact same time to pray. The company claims allowing that that many workers to leave at one time disrupts business and asks the workers to pray in groups of two or three instead.
But the workers here, they are crying foul. They are citing religious discrimination saying, "They have the right to pray." Of course, that issue here, the company has to do business, right? Can you really leave the work five times a day in large groups? I mean you are on an assembly line, the assembly line needs to continue producing the meat.
Well, Jaylani Hussein is the CARE Executive Director representing these workers. And he joins me right now with the latest on the dispute. Jaylani, tell us the details of what your clients say, these workers say happened?
JAYLANI HUSSEIN, CARE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: Yeah, thank you for having me. You know, our clients have actually been accommodated for. And let me just clarify, our clients are not requesting for group breaks, prayer breaks. In the past, the way they had been accommodated for and they will give be used to. And for some of them for almost eight to nine years is that they individually request for that. And they actually go by one or two, and, yes, in an assembly line this is how it works.
Now, this is a specific request.
REGAN: Well, let me just jump in, because I want to clarify things for the viewers. Cargill, the meat processing company says that 11 of these workers wanted to pray at once and that they were willing to make accommodations for three to pray at once, thereby, nearby on the facility, but 11 was just too much. What do you say in response to that?
HUSSEIN: So, it's not an accurate portrayal of actually what happened. So, on that specific day, our clients actually requested for prayer break, just like a normal day, and they were informed that day, actually, there was going to be a change in how the prayer breaks were going to be allowed for.
And so, that specific day, our clients, many of them did not actually pray. So, when they requested for prayer that was when the time of the prayer was actually running out.
What Cargill is not reporting is that these clients actually went back and finished their job and then afterwards, after missing their prayer that day which they had been granted on for many years.
REGAN: So does that make it.
HUSSEIN: . and that has been working on just fine.
REGAN: So, just because they, the company did it before, the company should have to do it again? Is that the thinking here?
HUSSEIN: Well, the company, well here is we -- there is actually a little more than that. Our clients report to us in the past and actually two specific incidents, last year and also in 2014 where supervisors exclusively told them that they don't have even the right to pray there. And immediately, this was followed.
REGAN: So that's not actually the case.
HUSSEIN: . by the company clarify it.
REGAN: This is -- Jaylani, Cargill actually set up the facility so that they could pray along with anybody else who wanted to pray on the premises.
HUSSEIN: Actually, you know, Cargill does allow for accommodations and there was something that did change on the 18th that resulted in not just 11 people walking out but nearly 200 walking out.
REGAN: Yeah. Well, not.
HUSSEIN: And so we.
REGAN: . just walking out. Let's talk about that for a second. Because these are employees that effectively just said, "We're not coming to work." They didn't show up for work for three days.
HUSSEIN: No. That's not how it happened. These employees requested to talk to supervisor after that day when many of them did not pray. And in their conversation with their supervisor, they were told that their religious accommodations which they've been used to being accommodated for will no longer be accommodated for.
And then they tried to seek some clarification. Now, if there was an incident there happened before, it would be a little more surprising.
REGAN: So, instead of seeking the clarification, they just didn't come to work the next day though. In fact, they didn't come to work the next three days, so the company fired them.
HUSSEIN: No, they actually, they.
REGAN: I mean, well.
HUSSEIN: They.
REGAN: Jaylani, let me just jump in here for a second.
JAYLANAI: No, let me just finish here.
REGAN: I mean, look, we are living in, Jaylani.
JALANI: You're asking me a question? I'm trying to clarify some reforms.
REGAN: I've got one minute left on the clock and then I got to run because the show is coming to an end. But Jaylani, I guess the questions fundamentally to everybody who's watching the show at home is thinking is you want to pray five times a day. OK, great. But, you know, the reality is you also got a job, and you can't just walk off the facility and you can't walk off the line that you're working on multiple times a day in large group.
HUSSEIN: They did not walk off. Our clients did not walk off, our client did not request group prayers, this is factually incorrect. These clients have been working there for eight to 10 years.
REGAN: So, you're saying that Cargill claims that 11 of them wanted to pray together and they, Cargill says, three of you can pray together but not 11 that's important?
HUSSEIN: Our negotiations with Cargill has not involve in requesting for group breaks.
REGAN: OK. Do you think these employees are.
HUSSEIN: And so therefore.
REGAN: . going to get their jobs back?
HUSSEIN: Well, we're negotiating with Cargill and I think, you know, the laws on their side that.
REGAN: Right.
HUSSEIN: . that they do have accommodations and they had been accommodated for.
REGAN: All right. We're going to leave it there.
HUSSEIN: And that's where we asking for.
REGAN: Jaylani, thank you. I'm sorry, I got a hard break coming up but I appreciate you being here. Stay with us everyone.
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REGAN: All right, tomorrow on the show, Senator John McCain is going to be joining me to discuss his new reports on government spending and how outrageous it is. All right. Let's go to Vegas, head to Liz.
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