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Auto Industry Bailout Plan Heads For Defeat
By Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press Writer
Manufacturing.Net - November 19, 2008

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- A Democratic Congress, unwilling or unable to approve a $25 billion bailout for Detroit's Big Three, appears ready to punt the automakers' fate to a lame-duck Republican president.

Caught in the middle of a who-blinks-first standoff are countless manufacturing firms and auto dealers -- and millions of Americans' jobs.

For now, with the plan headed for a roadblock in the Senate, lawmakers in both parties are engaged in a high-stakes game of chicken, positioning to blame each other for the failure.

"The Congress need do nothing" during its postelection session this week, Sen. Harry Reid, D-Nev., the majority leader, said Wednesday, although he also said he still hoped lawmakers could strike an elusive deal to carve $25 billion in new auto industry loans out of the $700 billion Wall Street rescue fund.

But it's really up to President George W. Bush's team to act, he said.

"If we can't do it here legislatively, I would hope that the secretary of Treasury would listen loud and clear, because they could take this into their own hands and do what I think is appropriate," the Democratic leader said.

Not our responsibility, countered the White House.

"If Congress leaves for a two-month vacation without having addressed this important issue ... then the Congress will bear responsibility for anything that happens in the next couple of months during their long vacation," said Dana Perino, the White House press secretary.

She said there was "no appetite" in the administration for using the financial industry bailout money to help auto companies.

The White House and congressional Republicans instead called on Democrats to sign on to a GOP plan to divert a $25 billion loan program created by Congress in September -- designed to help the companies develop more fuel-efficient vehicles -- to meet the auto giants' immediate financial needs.

GOP Sens. Kit Bond of Missouri and George V. Voinovich of Ohio were at work on that measure Wednesday, toiling to placate skeptical Democrats by including a guarantee that the fuel-efficiency loan fund would ultimately be replenished.

"It is the only proposal now being considered that has a chance of actually becoming law," said Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

But there was little sign that Democratic leaders would go along. They are vehemently opposed to letting the car companies tap that money -- set aside to help switch to vehicles that burn less gasoline -- for short-term cash-flow needs.

All of which leaves the Big Three bracing for a bleak winter without government help. General Motors Corp. has said it could collapse within weeks, and there are indications that Chrysler LLC might not be far behind.

GM CEO Rick Wagoner told a House committee Wednesday that the downfall of his industry could lead to a loss of 3 million jobs within the first year and ripple through communities around the nation.

In sometimes contentious testimony, Wagoner was pressed on when GM would run out of money if the loans weren't extended.

He wouldn't say precisely, but disclosed that the company now was burning through "$5 billion each month."

Still, with the $25 billion emergency package, "we think we have a good shot to make it through this," Wagoner said.

Many lawmakers in both parties, however, are now openly discussing whether bankruptcy might be a better option for auto firms they regard as lumbering industrial dinosaurs that have done too little to adjust their products and work forces for the 21st century.

The carmakers argue that bankruptcy would devastate their companies, but proponents say it would give them a chance to reorganize and emerge stronger and more competitive.

It's unclear, though, whether Democrats controlling Congress are willing to risk being blamed for letting one of the Big Three -- symbols of the nation's once-mighty manufacturing sector -- go under.

Bailout-shy lawmakers got an earful from jittery constituents last month when the House let an early version of the Wall Street rescue fail, sending the Dow Jones industrials tumbling and erasing more than a trillion dollars in retirement savings and other investments. Congress took a deep breath and reconsidered, passing the plan a few days later.

Faced with a similar collapse in the auto industry, the Bush administration might yet decide to use its authority under the $700 billion financial industry bailout to help the auto companies, or the Federal Reserve could step in -- though both have steadfastly refused to do so.

If not, lawmakers have left themselves a contingency plan: Come back to Washington in December for yet another postelection session where they might be able to strike the deal that now seems beyond reach.

Democratic leaders are planning to gather for an economic conference the week of Dec. 8, noted House Majority Leader Steny H. Hoyer, D-Md.

"That is available," Hoyer said this week. "The year has not ended."

Associated Press Writer Sam Hananel contributed to this report.


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No Bias Here  11/19/2008 4:12:00 PM
Note that the reporter conveniently neglected to mention the lawmakers ALSO got an earful from constituents OPPOSED to the first bailout. The lawmakers listened to those citizens and voted down the bailout. Then the media decided THEY would run point and scream doom & gloom until the lawmakers acquiesced, which they finally did, IN SPITE of their constituents' wishes. It's just so great when the media chooses to MAKE news, instead of just reporting it.
The problem is more complex than this.  11/19/2008 5:01:00 PM
The Big 3 can product quality products, and they have since the last fifteen years they have produced cars that can compete with the others. The problem is more complex than just bailing these guys out, the government needs to life the trade restrictions that are imposed upon our nations finest auto makers. The government has placed heavy restrictions upon these giants, forcing them to out source to be competitive with the foreign auto makers, plus there are the corrupt auto unions which burden down the industry. Thinking upon this further, let's say we bail them out and they respond with business as usual, we are still in a recession and heading for a depression soon, people will be loosing their jobs, the dollar will continue to be devalued, income tax is on the increase to pay for the other bail outs and the Iraq war. People are not going to be looking to purchase a new car, they are going to be looking to purchase good used cars.
got your wish  11/19/2008 5:05:00 PM
Many readers should be happy because it is clear that the LOAN not BAIL money will fail. So who will really get hurt, probably the people who deserve it the least namely those who have been retired who weren't part of creating a problem rather creating a future. Yes there is plenty of blame to go around from executives who mismanaged and unions who over demanded and lets not forget those who bought foreign cars and justified it by saying the were "better". Many people who work hard will get hurt out of this and will be punished for the actions of a few. But I guess we should have seen this coming....sort of like drinking an import Budweiser.
The results of bankruptcy  11/19/2008 5:19:00 PM
If allowed to go under and file bankruptcy consider the effects on the smaller suppliers who will have to eat the loss. Many will not survive.
Auto Industry Bailout Plan Heads For Defeat  11/19/2008 5:30:00 PM
Great, let them go Bankrupt. Then all of thier suppliers who have provided services, equipment and materials do not get paid what they are owed, so now they can join the Big 3 and go Bankrupt. Hey, that's the solution, we all go bankrupt so noone has to pay anyone!
Constituents have no bias?  11/19/2008 5:50:00 PM
The entire world praises Gordon Brown for his leadership to help the finance industry, avoiding painful failures that would crash the world economy. While the constituents here in the USA consider themselves more knowledgeable than the experts at home and abroad. And the two parties here just stand their grounds and would not meet each other half way, so it is grid-lock even as impending gloom closes in. Human pride and prejudise will seal our fates on this crisis which was caused by human greed and ignorance in the first place.
Don't blame congress  11/19/2008 6:07:00 PM
WHY WHY WHY..... Do these auto giants think they should not have a rainy day fund?? Sending labor forces to foreign countrys to get CHEAP labor. They have gone from record profits and hugh bonuses to begging hard working AMERICIANS, so they can maintain there exotic lifestyle. Kiss my A--. Get a real job
2 month vacation  11/19/2008 6:31:00 PM
Maybe we should lock Congress out during their 2 month vacation, and replace them with some other folks who may have at least some tiny bit of common sense? We must share some of the blame, along with big 3 CEOs and the UAW, as we voted for these legislative clowns.
GM bailout   11/19/2008 6:57:00 PM
When I graduated from High School 35 yrs ago, I went to technical school and worked very hard my whole life to keep my head above water. I had to go to school constantly just to keep up. My ex-high school friend went to work for GM. He was a giant screw-up and went thru de-tox 7 times, now he has an awesome pension and medical benefits. His only good decision was to work for a union factory (GM). Now they want the taxpayers to give them OUR money to pay for their benefits and preserve their undeserving salaries. These people are worth about $8 per hour, they get 4-5 times that much only because they have a union. Let them go bankrupt and let's take away their benefits as well! It's time these screw-ups live the life they choose! sincerly -TJ
Re: No Bias Here  11/19/2008 7:27:00 PM
I agree with your assessment whole heartedly. Isn't it funny how the media in all forms seems to push along controversial issues they should but out of and just report the facts. However; as you very effectively pointed out the media tends to express too much of its point of view and not enough objectivity. To all you media clowns out there. When this crap blows up in our collective faces, be ready to step up to the front of the line and take your fare share of the blame.
Loans  11/19/2008 7:55:00 PM
The loans will need some sort of guarentees. The Automakers really need to explain the transformation plans better that were part of the 07 agreements then people will see the facts instead of the falsehoods.Also the American automakers need to get some good Engineers to work for them and fire the lazy ones.After all the UAW I understand only assembles what overpaid Engineers tell them too.TOO MUCH BOOKLEARNING, not enough common sense. After reading the Labor Agreements, I have now changed my mind completely. I have no objections to Loaning Amercan Companies like these money.They know what they need to do... New union workers only make 14.45 per hour...That's NOT overpaid to me.
US Auto Industry  11/19/2008 8:01:00 PM
Any Federal Taxpayer Bailout Money given or loaned to the US Auto industry will just go to pay for the UAW Union Contract Benefit Programs, and the Big three will still go bankrupt at some later date. The UAW has just killed and ate the Golden Goose that made their lives good. The bones of the goose cannot revive to produce anything that will be of any value to anyone. The US Auto Industry is essentially on "Life Support" and cannot recover no matter how much hard earned taxpayer money is given or loaned. We must let them go bankrupt and let others buy the plants as non-union auto manufacturers. Why should the taxpayers pay the UAW (featherbed) benefits?
LOANS  11/19/2008 8:07:00 PM
WOW I can't believe that ANY HONEST,HARDWORKING, TRUE AMERICAN would want the Automakers and all the suppliers,vendors and supply base to fail. I SUPPORT AMERICA and IT'S WORKERS...UNION or NOT!!!
Bailout plan  11/20/2008 7:17:00 AM
Why wait for the government to bail you out? If it were my company and my job on the line I sure wouldn't be waiting to see if I was going to get free money from the government! Listen up auto execs and Union leaders, sit down right now and make consessions! The time is now to take responsibility for your past management mistakes and fix them. Your decisions are to keep your jobs with less money and benefits or stand in line at the unemployment office until you can get a job in the service industry!
Aid for US Mfg, not Retiree Benefits or Overseas Mfg  11/20/2008 8:03:00 AM
The public should support the bailout of this critical American industry, but first: 1) Renegotiate the retiree benefit plan, it's too generous and too expensive. 2) Get assurances that the money won't be used to build plants in China!
"GM Bailout" Example Brilliant  11/20/2008 9:37:00 AM
The example of the loser who now has excellent medical benefits despite their irresponsible lifestyle says it all. I'm not paying for that to continue, and you shouldn't either.
Merge Big 3 into 1 Mega US Auto Company  11/20/2008 2:16:00 PM
Monopoly is not an issue anymore with competition from overseas getting stronger.
To be or not to BE....  11/20/2008 6:01:00 PM
I do not want to see any company go bankrupt, however, what about the small companies that worked hard and without the assistant of the government to even help them. What about the taxes small compaines paid to support the goverment who took from the poor to support the rich CEO's in the Big 3 with tax breaks that the small did not get. It does not make me wish evil just justice for those that get Lear Jets to fly to meetings that cost $20,000.00 for one trip. Maybe if the Government had given each American $300,000.00 dollars to shore up thier own problems to pay thier bills we could see it all filter back up to the top and kick start the world over again. John would pay Paul who paid Pete who Paid Sally and soon we are ALL over of debt the ecomony is back on the road. Problem is payoffs and those seeking to profit from the behind scenes have not been paid yet. Now we are asked again to bail out yet another corporate giant so they can hold 6 digit parties to celebrate our us being stupid enough to believe them. When Cryslyer went south years ago "Lee" Iacocca refused his bonus money to lead his hand as a CEO to bring it back and did bring it back. The CEO's of the big three cannot force themselves to raise thier hands to fly back commercially to save over $20,000.00 vs paying $800.00 for the same trip to beg for our hard earned tax dollars. Let them dig like all the others who have lost thier homes and cars, boats, and experience the pain they do along with thier childern who only wanted to have a soft pillow and warm bed with a secure feeling.
GM BAILOUT  11/20/2008 6:07:00 PM
So see if I understand this correctly...ONE PERSON...BECAUSE of ONE PERSON having a problem and getting a Pension who you don't think deserves it We allow an AMERICAN Company that needs A LOAN, to be turned away... YEAH REAL BRILLIANT!!! Why didn't YOU get a JOB at GM and secure your future? I bet with a gREAT PERSON LIKE YOURSELF at GM THEY PROBABLY WOULD BE DOING FINE RIGHT NOW!!!
NO CAR BAILOUT  12/5/2008 10:18:00 AM
THE UNIONS ARE ARROGANT.I & ARE OVER PAID.I HAD SURVIVE ON MY OWN & MADE IT .NO BAIL OUT .AGAIN NO BAILOUT


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